Chiefs Top DC Candidate - Page 11

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I just can't take anyone seriously that's going to tell me Geno suffered because of his defense.

The team suffered because of his defense. If anything, his stats were inflated some because they threw so much to keep up.

If a bad defense impacts a QB in that way, then I would say his psyche has an issue.

But I don't put one ounce of stock in the defense mentally tarnished Geno.

The defense didn't make him play worse.

But he's getting some of the blame the defense should be getting.

Prime example - Geno takes the blame for ALL FIVE of the 5 losses down the stretch.

Anybody that watched the OU game saw him WIN that game with the go-ahead score, only to watch the defense go Greg Robinson and lose the game.

**Easy 6** · 01-07-2013, 05:45 PM

While this IS supposed to be a defensive coordinator thread, i'm really glad to see many people open to the idea that their guy may not be "the guy" and are putting their trust in a quarterback savvy HC to make the right call for his team.

We ALL want a #1 quarterback, but its nice to know that many of you wont go ballistic if it isnt Smith, although i'd bet it will be.

**BigRedChief** · 01-07-2013, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free

While this IS supposed to be a defensive coordinator thread, i'm really glad to see many people open to the idea that their guy may not be "the guy" and are putting their trust in a quarterback savvy HC to make the right call for his team.

We ALL want a #1 quarterback, but its nice to know that many of you wont go ballistic if it isnt Smith, although i'd bet it will be.

I'm on board with that because of Reid's history.

He believes you have to have a top QB to be successful in the NFL and his system. He's the one that believed in Brett Farve, refined him. Believed a black QB could be successful. Got Jeff Garcia to the league championship game.

He's got our QB back.

**Easy 6** · 01-07-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I'm on board with that because of Reid's history.

He believes you have to have a top QB to be successful in the NFL and his system. He's the one that believed in Brett Farve, refined him. Believed a black QB could be successful. Got Jeff Garcia to the league championship game.

He's got our QB back.

Exactly, his awareness of the importance of the position, combined with a resume full of successful QB's, should be enough to placate even the most die hard of cynics.

O.city · 01-07-2013, 04:33 PM

Hell, the draft with Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger wasn't even regarded to be as good as last years.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Hell, the draft with Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger wasn't even regarded to be as good as last years.

Another this.

**The Franchise** · 01-07-2013, 04:38 PM

Exactly.....I've seen plenty of people complain that you don't take a QB who went 7-5 in the Big 12 first overall.

It's ****ing moronic.

O.city · 01-07-2013, 04:38 PM

And really, I know I'll get knocked like shit for this, but I'm just not completely sold on RGIII as a pocket passer. He can't continue to play like he did this year, he doesn't have the size. When he can't run, his passing took a hit this year (not specifically yesterday, other games this season).

Hes just so gifted mentally and physically I think he'll get there, but as far as a passer he has a ways to go.

O.city · 01-07-2013, 04:44 PM

And honestly, trading for Freeman wouldn't piss me off the way it would others. Yeah, teams don't trade franchise QB's, but Schiano wants to win his way, ala, Pioli. Dude is still young.

Hootie · 01-07-2013, 04:56 PM

this place cracks me up

RGIII goes from the toast of the NFL to having a game where he got injured and tried to play through it (and failing miserably) to suddenly being a guy no one wants anymore.

Unbelievable.

I feel bad for whatever poor guy has to come in here and play QB. Half of our fan base wouldn't even hypothetically trade our #1 pick for Aaron Rodgers.

Good luck big guy!!

**DaKCMan AP** · 01-07-2013, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

this place cracks me up

RGIII goes from the toast of the NFL to having a game where he got injured and tried to play through it (and failing miserably) to suddenly being a guy no one wants anymore.

Unbelievable.

I feel bad for whatever poor guy has to come in here and play QB. Half of our fan base wouldn't even hypothetically trade our #1 pick for Aaron Rodgers.

Good luck big guy!!

You crack me up. You enter every thread and start a baseless argument with yourself. No one here wouldn't take RGIII. Stop arguing with yourself.

Hootie · 01-07-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

You crack me up. You enter every thread and start a baseless argument with yourself. No one here wouldn't take RGIII. Stop arguing with yourself.

I read half of the dudes post where he started with "not being sold with RGIII as a pocket passer" and kind of overreacted, some also stems from my hypothetical "who would you trade the #1 pick for" thread where people were already turning on RGIII...and many said no to Aaron Rodgers.

Insane.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

I read half of the dudes post where he started with "not being sold with RGIII as a pocket passer" and kind of overreacted, some also stems from my hypothetical "who would you trade the #1 pick for" thread where people were already turning on RGIII...and many said no to Aaron Rodgers.

Insane.

RG3s inability to stay healthy ALREADY is a HUGE concern. To act like it isn't is silly.

Anybody that wouldn't trade for Aaron Rodgers is a moron. Case closed.

Ace Gunner · 01-07-2013, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

As I mentioned on this site days before any media last week, the top DC candidate for the Chiefs is going to be Monte Kiffin. He would also bring Rod Marinelli as his line coach.

I've been told it's his job to turn down and they think he wants it.

I think Kiffin has evolved some and doesn't run a straight Tampa 2 anymore, but and the personnel is an interesting fit.

Dorsey would be in huge consideration to be re-signed.

Hali, Dorsey, Poe, ?

Houston, ?, DJ - I think DJ would slide into the Derrick Brooks role.

I hated the hire at first, but I'm not completely against it now. I hate the Tampa 2 defense, but I think Kiffin recognizes he can't run that solely with the offenses of today.

Will be interesting. Just thought I'd share.

Dorsey? Glenn Dorsey?

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-07-2013, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

Dorsey? Glenn Dorsey?

Yes. In a 4-3.

01-07-2013, 05:45 PM	#2
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3497775	While this IS supposed to be a defensive coordinator thread, i'm really glad to see many people open to the idea that their guy may not be "the guy" and are putting their trust in a quarterback savvy HC to make the right call for his team. We ALL want a #1 quarterback, but its nice to know that many of you wont go ballistic if it isnt Smith, although i'd bet it will be.
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01-07-2013, 04:33 PM	#5
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2534064	Hell, the draft with Manning, Rivers, Rothlisberger wasn't even regarded to be as good as last years.
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01-07-2013, 04:38 PM	#7
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2875047	Exactly.....I've seen plenty of people complain that you don't take a QB who went 7-5 in the Big 12 first overall. It's ****ing moronic.
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01-07-2013, 04:38 PM	#8
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2534064	And really, I know I'll get knocked like shit for this, but I'm just not completely sold on RGIII as a pocket passer. He can't continue to play like he did this year, he doesn't have the size. When he can't run, his passing took a hit this year (not specifically yesterday, other games this season). Hes just so gifted mentally and physically I think he'll get there, but as far as a passer he has a ways to go.
Posts: 81,417

01-07-2013, 04:44 PM	#9
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2534064	And honestly, trading for Freeman wouldn't piss me off the way it would others. Yeah, teams don't trade franchise QB's, but Schiano wants to win his way, ala, Pioli. Dude is still young.
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01-07-2013, 04:56 PM	#10
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	this place cracks me up RGIII goes from the toast of the NFL to having a game where he got injured and tried to play through it (and failing miserably) to suddenly being a guy no one wants anymore. Unbelievable. I feel bad for whatever poor guy has to come in here and play QB. Half of our fan base wouldn't even hypothetically trade our #1 pick for Aaron Rodgers. Good luck big guy!!
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