Chiefs Andre Johnson anyone? - Page 9

mcaj22 · 05-13-2014, 07:48 PM

I would swap Flowers for Johnson

fills a need for them and fills a need for us. Inflated contract for inflated contract. Too bad the NFL in real life doesn't really do stuff like that.

Reerun_KC · 05-13-2014, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I would swap Flowers for Johnson

fills a need for them and fills a need for us. Inflated contract for inflated contract. Too bad the NFL in real life doesn't really do stuff like that.

Flowers has no value. Not that Johnson's is higher. But a broken down slow ass flowers has zero trade value.

mcaj22 · 05-13-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Flowers has no value. Not that Johnson's is higher. But a broken down slow ass flowers has zero trade value.

Yea I get they ruined his value by tipping their hand at drafting another CB in the 3rd. NOW he has no value

they should have moved him before/during the draft.

**MahiMike** · 05-13-2014, 08:21 PM

So he wants to go to Denver?

ForeverChiefs58 · 05-13-2014, 08:27 PM

Andre Johnson, Texans face salary cap hurdle for trade

Now that Andre Johnson is questioning his future in Houston, fans around the league are wondering if their team might strike up trade talks with the Texans.

After much spirited discussion factoring in talent, age, injury history, demonstrated production and salary, the Around The League crew has tentatively placed Johnson's trade value at a second-round draft pick.

A seven-time Pro Bowl wide receiver himself, Johnson is at the same age as future Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez when the Falcons acquired the tight end for a second-round pick in 2009. Atlanta never regretted that trade.

Although there are Texans fans who believe the franchise icon deserves to be set free to join a contender, we remain skeptical that the team's brass will be motivated enough to pull the trigger unless Johnson turns himself into a nuisance of Eagles-era Terrell Owens proportions.

If the Texans were inclined to field offers for the NFL's second-most productive wide receiver over the past two seasons, salary cap repercussions still present a formidable hurdle.

A Johnson trade would leave $11.96 million in dead money against the Texans' 2014 cap, per NFL Media's Albert Breer. Perhaps just as prohibitive, a prospective suitor would need the space to absorb Johnson's monstrous contract.

The receiver-needy Browns are one of the few teams capable of meeting that qualification, but that would hardly satisfy Johnson's desire to join an instant contender.

It's going to be quite challenging to find a match that suits the Texans' need for fair compensation, Johnson's wishes and the third party's cap situation.

For those reasons, we believe Johnson will be catching passes in new coach Bill O'Brien's offense come September.

Simplicity · 05-13-2014, 08:30 PM

Chad Johnson >

Chiefs Pantalones · 05-15-2014, 12:45 AM

A lot of great points being made in here. I think what people fail to see by this approach or give kudos to is the possibility that Reid/Dorsey know Smith is not the answer and is indeed a stop gap. The possibility gives me hope they know what they're doing.

Mother****erJones · 05-13-2014, 08:59 PM

We're too scared to take risks like this

**Rausch** · 05-13-2014, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

We're too scared to take risks like this

I've had this dude on my fantasy league the last 4 years.

Pretty sure he averages like 4 games a season with injury and he's ALWAYS banged up...

TripleThreat · 05-13-2014, 09:00 PM

Don't tease me with such a thought such as this.

Sure-Oz · 05-13-2014, 09:00 PM

He can be the Chiefs version of James Shields?!! That contract is killer

**TribalElder** · 05-13-2014, 10:19 PM

We don't want to lose compensatory picks

Eleazar · 05-13-2014, 10:27 PM

He's worth a first, if he's available. We probably don't have the ability to fit him into our meager cap space, if you subscribe to the idea that the cap is a real thing.

OldSchool · 05-13-2014, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

He's worth a first, if he's available. We probably don't have the ability to fit him into our meager cap space, if you subscribe to the idea that the cap is a real thing.

Not worth a first at his age; maybe 5 years ago, but not now. If we were going to trade a 1st for someone, I'd rather try to find a younger option.

bowener · 05-14-2014, 01:13 AM

Just as a fan of football, I want the Lions to trade Suh for Andre Johnson and some other pick (I don't really give a ****). I want to see Megatron and AJ play together, and I want to see a DL comprised of Clowney, Suh, and Watt.

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ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $2765326	Andre Johnson, Texans face salary cap hurdle for trade Now that Andre Johnson is questioning his future in Houston, fans around the league are wondering if their team might strike up trade talks with the Texans. After much spirited discussion factoring in talent, age, injury history, demonstrated production and salary, the Around The League crew has tentatively placed Johnson's trade value at a second-round draft pick. A seven-time Pro Bowl wide receiver himself, Johnson is at the same age as future Hall of Famer Tony Gonzalez when the Falcons acquired the tight end for a second-round pick in 2009. Atlanta never regretted that trade. Although there are Texans fans who believe the franchise icon deserves to be set free to join a contender, we remain skeptical that the team's brass will be motivated enough to pull the trigger unless Johnson turns himself into a nuisance of Eagles-era Terrell Owens proportions. If the Texans were inclined to field offers for the NFL's second-most productive wide receiver over the past two seasons, salary cap repercussions still present a formidable hurdle. A Johnson trade would leave $11.96 million in dead money against the Texans' 2014 cap, per NFL Media's Albert Breer. Perhaps just as prohibitive, a prospective suitor would need the space to absorb Johnson's monstrous contract. The receiver-needy Browns are one of the few teams capable of meeting that qualification, but that would hardly satisfy Johnson's desire to join an instant contender. It's going to be quite challenging to find a match that suits the Texans' need for fair compensation, Johnson's wishes and the third party's cap situation. For those reasons, we believe Johnson will be catching passes in new coach Bill O'Brien's offense come September.
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