Chiefs People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. - Page 6

yhf · 10-17-2010, 10:06 PM

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:57 PM

they showed a stat...

Chiefs offensive drives:

It was...

TD
TD
FG
TD

(or something)

but yeah...Cassel was the reason we lost today...

yeah ****ing right people...

our defense lost it...plain and simple...and that being said...I'm not even mad at our defense today.

FAX · 10-17-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yhf

Well God dammit I didn't create this shitty thread to swear an allegiance to a creepy member of Hitlers youth that has poor pocket presence. I only meant to make the point that this team has a few issues to worry about before we can lay all the blame for our losses at the feet of the apparent fool under center.

Dear Gussie and all the little Gussies.

These bizarre ideas of yours, although potentially worthwhile, would, of course, require that we have no scapegoat. Over time I have learned that, here at ChiefsPlanet, a scapegoat is necessary in order to maintain order. Today, it's Mutt Cassclamp. Tomorrow? Who knows? Hopefully, it's Mr. Mr. Flopnuts.

Nevertheless, the main thing is that we must channel our flustration and hate so that we might avoid either severe gastric reflux or senseless rampages that lead to the death of innocent pets.

FAX

Silock · 10-17-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

...anyone...anyone?

And I'm not talking in a "Dilfer mode."

No. Playoff games are more intense than what we had today. How could we possibly expect him to step up given the complete lack of talent he has so far shown?

Frazod · 10-17-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

you guys think Peyton Mannings grow on trees...

Trent Green heavily relied on the running game to get his numbers, too...

every time we needed Trent on the last drive in a game where we needed a score...he choked up too without Priest Holmes and the element of a running game there to make him so successful...

we will not win games if it's all on Matt Cassel...ever.

But he executed the offensive gameplan wonderfully today and that's all we should ask as fans.

If we want to blame someone today (and there doesn't always have to be blame after a loss)...it's our defense. Plain and simple. We couldn't stop Foster, Schaub or Johnson when it counted and that's why we lost.

I hate agreeing with Hootie, but other than the part where he pisses on Green I pretty much concur.

Cassel will never be a Manning/Montana/Marino type. Ever. The best we can hope for is for him to be Dilfer - an effective game manager who can win if his supporting cast picks him up and he's not asked to do too much. Certainly not worth $63M, but it is what it is.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 10:58 PM

Wow...I can't believe what I'm reading.

We were the better team today and we lost...it happens all of the time in the NFL.

I can't believe you guys don't agree...how were we the inferior team today? OMG

The Cardinals beat the Saints two weeks ago...

are the Cardinals a better team than the Saints?

johnny961 · 10-17-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

jfc, are we really going to play this game? Matt Cassel had a really solid performance and his stats are reflective of that.

He just sucked it up when it counted most. The problem isn't how he played early in the game. Let's not play this game of "if not this, then that."

Just trying to keep his performance in perspective. That one play did inflate his stats.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny961

Just trying to keep his performance in perspective. That one play did inflate his stats.

then Tom Brady was a terrible QB in 2007

JFC

some people are so dense

it's sickening

ILikeBigTiddys · 10-17-2010, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by yhf

For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense.

Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort.

C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING
M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9

Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb****.

Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a ****ing grip.

Gay

johnny961 · 10-17-2010, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Cassel will never be a Manning/Montana/Marino type. Ever. The best we can hope for is for him to be Dilfer - an effective game manager who can win if his supporting cast picks him up and he's not asked to do too much. Certainly not worth $63M, but it is what it is.

Exactly. Very well put.

**cdcox** · 10-17-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

We controlled the entire game...the entire time...

We didn't make the plays at the end...

That was it.

Play this game 10 times, we win 7.5.

I think it is just the opposite. I think we play them on the road 10 times and we will lose 7 or 8.

Cassel won't play as well as he did today consistently.

They have a good run defense. We did better today running than I expected to do, perhaps because of Cassel's effectiveness.

Our defense had its worst day of the season, but I don't think they played badly. I think the Texans' multidimensional offense is too much for our defense at this stage of its development, especially in a road game. The D could have tackled better and we would have won today, due to the above average offensive day. But on another day we would tackle better, the Texan's would get their 24 points and we'd struggle to break 20.

philfree · 10-17-2010, 11:05 PM

The Chiefs are the only team that the QBs stats are affected by YAC. Amazing and quite special....LOL

PhilFree

chiefzilla1501 · 10-17-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny961

Just trying to keep his performance in perspective. That one play did inflate his stats.

But then you fall into a slippery slope. Should we take away Schaub yards when Andre Johnson makes a circus catch on a long bomb? While I understand your point, the play was set up because Cassel found the right guy and led him with a good pass. That's a lot more than we can say for the rest of the season so far.

Hootie · 10-17-2010, 11:06 PM

I disagree...

Our offense is underrated...teams HAVE to gameplan against our run which was enough for us to take advantage of their porous pass defense.

We are a better team than the Houston Texans.

And they are a good team.

We will win the AFC West barring a dramatic injury or two to key players.

johnny961 · 10-17-2010, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

then Tom Brady was a terrible QB in 2007

JFC

some people are so dense

it's sickening

Look at Brady's total stats for the year 2007 before you start rambling. Dude threw for an astronomical number of yards that year. http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/...e?id=BRA371156

mcaj22 · 10-17-2010, 11:10 PM

I'm not here to side yes or no if Cassel is to blame, but to counter the OP's numbers argument

Texans
Week 1 - 433 yards 3 touchdowns (Peyton)
Week 2 - 426 yards 1 touchdown (McNabb)
Week 3 - 284 yards 2 touchdowns (Romo)
Week 4 - 278 yards 2 touchdowns (Gradkowski)
Week 5 - 297 yards 3 touchdowns (Eli)
Week 6 - 201 yards 3 touchdowns (Cassel)

Now if you use this as a measuring stick, (which you should, because it's the ****ing 31st ranked PASS DEFENSE in the ENTIRE LEAGUE) then that means the numbers a skewed to make even bad players look good.

Cassel falls somewhere around and or under the Bruce Gradkowski/Tony Romo range and I think the consensus around here is those guys stink, so I'm sure a similar case can be made for Cassel.

I'm not saying to blame him for the loss, but I'm saying his numbers are far under what the Texans have given up against other QBs and I'm not sure if his numbers are skewed because the play calling has him on such a short leash (compared to all the other QBs the Texans have faced that pretty much have free reign to be a gunslinger) or he is really that bad. But either way, it paints him in a very serviceable light when you see how a range of 5 (good and bad) QBs have also done against the Texans this season.

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yhf Starter Join Date: May 2010 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $10004925	People blaming Cassel for this loss are clearly maladjusted freaks. For Christs sake, blame the coaches, blame the refs, blame the defense. Do NOT blame Matt Cassel. He provided a winning effort. C/ATT YDS AVG TD INT RATING M. Cassel 20/29 201 6.9 3 0 122.9 Anyone that asks for more production, is, a dumb**. Don't get me wrong, I doubt the shit out of Cassel, but his performance in this game was extremely encouraging. Any purported Chiefs fan that wasn't impressed and pleased by his play should just... get a **ing grip.
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10-17-2010, 10:57 PM	#76
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	they showed a stat... Chiefs offensive drives: It was... TD TD FG TD (or something) but yeah...Cassel was the reason we lost today... yeah ****ing right people... our defense lost it...plain and simple...and that being said...I'm not even mad at our defense today.
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10-17-2010, 10:58 PM	#80
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Wow...I can't believe what I'm reading. We were the better team today and we lost...it happens all of the time in the NFL. I can't believe you guys don't agree...how were we the inferior team today? OMG The Cardinals beat the Saints two weeks ago... are the Cardinals a better team than the Saints?
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philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1636198	The Chiefs are the only team that the QBs stats are affected by YAC. Amazing and quite special....LOL PhilFree __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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10-17-2010, 11:06 PM	#88
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I disagree... Our offense is underrated...teams HAVE to gameplan against our run which was enough for us to take advantage of their porous pass defense. We are a better team than the Houston Texans. And they are a good team. We will win the AFC West barring a dramatic injury or two to key players.
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10-17-2010, 11:10 PM	#90
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	I'm not here to side yes or no if Cassel is to blame, but to counter the OP's numbers argument Texans Week 1 - 433 yards 3 touchdowns (Peyton) Week 2 - 426 yards 1 touchdown (McNabb) Week 3 - 284 yards 2 touchdowns (Romo) Week 4 - 278 yards 2 touchdowns (Gradkowski) Week 5 - 297 yards 3 touchdowns (Eli) Week 6 - 201 yards 3 touchdowns (Cassel) Now if you use this as a measuring stick, (which you should, because it's the ****ing 31st ranked PASS DEFENSE in the ENTIRE LEAGUE) then that means the numbers a skewed to make even bad players look good. Cassel falls somewhere around and or under the Bruce Gradkowski/Tony Romo range and I think the consensus around here is those guys stink, so I'm sure a similar case can be made for Cassel. I'm not saying to blame him for the loss, but I'm saying his numbers are far under what the Texans have given up against other QBs and I'm not sure if his numbers are skewed because the play calling has him on such a short leash (compared to all the other QBs the Texans have faced that pretty much have free reign to be a gunslinger) or he is really that bad. But either way, it paints him in a very serviceable light when you see how a range of 5 (good and bad) QBs have also done against the Texans this season.
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