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Ultra Peanut · 05:12 PM

RAW. IS. FANDANGO!
#AJALL

BigRock · 03-24-2009, 04:52 PM

Here's the match, if this link will fit:

http://www.commandandconquer.com/por...00100d2c0aRCRD

Jerm · 03-24-2009, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Here's the match, if this link will fit:

http://www.commandandconquer.com/por...00100d2c0aRCRD

the Bear even did a Flair Flop!

Classic!

keg in kc · 03-24-2009, 05:18 PM

What the **** did I just watch?

Swanman · 03-25-2009, 06:59 AM

Flair should now go to Chikara and wrestle the Soviet Cow. Yes, Chikara has some goofy-ass characters.

Swanman · 03-25-2009, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I actually think it's pretty impressive the amount of pop he gets being only an upper midcard guy, and looking in no way like the kind of wrestler Vince wants to sell to his crowds. Almost all the house show reports list him as one of most popular wrestlers on the card.

I think with Punk his popularity is due to a couple things. First, there are vocal fans (not tons of them, but enough) that know about his work in ROH, FIP, IWA-MS, MLW, etc. and know that he can bring the goods. Second, I think many fans are tired of the "larger-than-life" guys that are basically just roided up jerkoffs that lumber around the ring in a boring fashion. Punk isn't like that, he's a fairly normal size guy that can do about eleventy-billion different things in the ring.

SCChief · 03-25-2009, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Swanman

I think with Punk his popularity is due to a couple things. First, there are vocal fans (not tons of them, but enough) that know about his work in ROH, FIP, IWA-MS, MLW, etc. and know that he can bring the goods. Second, I think many fans are tired of the "larger-than-life" guys that are basically just roided up jerkoffs that lumber around the ring in a boring fashion. Punk isn't like that, he's a fairly normal size guy that can do about eleventy-billion different things in the ring.

A lot of people also respect his whole "straight-edged" image. He has accomplished what he has in wrestling without being caught up in the vices attributed to practitioners of the field.

Swanman · 03-25-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SCChief

A lot of people also respect his whole "straight-edged" image. He has accomplished what he has in wrestling without being caught up in the vices attributed to practitioners of the field.

His image can be used in great gimmicks too. When he was a heel in the indies, he shoved his straight-edge lifestyle in people's faces and said he was better than them because of it. The height of that was the following clip from FIP:

Punk and Homicide had a falls count anywhere match that ended up in a stripclub so Punk gave a little editorial commentary to one of the strippers.

Jerm · 03-25-2009, 10:32 AM

I still maintain that Punk's ROH promo about Raven being just like his dad and the entire straight edge theme is still one of the best ever...it's def. near the top.

It was absolutely awesome.

I also loved his promo where he signed his WWE contract ON the ROH World Title and ripped Foley apart when he came out...the Summer of Punk was epic.

Ultra Peanut · 03-25-2009, 10:58 AM

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Subject: THE INCIDENT AT AAA WITH KONNAN AND JACK EVANS
Body: Hola Amigos. I want to share with you my side of the story on what happened at AAA. Here it goes-

This was my second show back with AAA, and the real "boss" of AAA, Konnan, was not happy about it. I tried to talk to him earlier in the show, and he ignored me. We have had problems for years. I have been negotiating with AAA for my comeback since October, but each time he was blocking me. Finally I made my return at the Rey De Reyes show, and everyone was cool with me backstage. Konnan was really late arriving to the event, 5 minutes before his match. Now at my second show, the vibe was different. I guess some of these guys got in trouble with the "boss" for talking to me.

I went out and had my match, which was really juicy, and when I returned to the lockerroom, I found my bag in a different area, and it was wet. I knew immediately Konnan was behind it. I opened the bag to find human feces inside. I immediately grabbed the bag and brought it to the owners of AAA. They were in shock. They know of my problems with Konnan, and knew he was behind it, but didnt do anything about it, because they are scared of him. Then i went up to Konnan and asked him what his problem was, and he sat there like a coward and denied everything. When we were in WCW he broke my ribs on purpose in a match. And remember when I got fired from WCW for that incident in Australia, well Konnan is the one who laced the pot with LCD and "forgot" to tell me. Even when i was in WWE he was trying to **** with me. I am the one who got him the job in AAA. It took 2 years of convincing Antonio Pena to make that happen.

All of a sudden, I felt someone attack me from behind and start choking me. It was Jack Evans, who had been stiffing me in our match earlier in the night kicking me multiple times right in the face. At this point, Konnan got out of his seat and starting holding me down for Jack to hit me, and then started punching me too. None of the other wrestlers tried to break it up (because again, Konnan is the true "boss" of AAA and will screw with their career). Finally Sr Roldan, the owner of AAA came in and broke it up.

My nose has fractures, and I have lots of bruises. My eye is completely red but I am still Juicy. It took 2 guys to try and hurt me, but I still have my integrity and pride.

Konnan has alot of enemies in this business, and all his friends are fake. They only talk to him to keep their job. This is the truth. He has burned all his bridges in the USA, and once AAA finally realizes what an asshole he is and fires him, he will have nothing. I am really sad about this situation because at one time, we were really close friends, but now i realize he will never change. He is an egomaniac. He is a miserable human being. Ask anyone who isnt afraid of losing their job. AAA's top star Cibernetico even left the company recently because he couldnt stand dealing with Konnans politics/bullshit.

I want to thank my friends, family, and fans for supporting me.

Interview requests can be sent to dejuice2@gmail.com.
I have alot more to talk about!

Thanks

Juvy aka Da Juice

chiefscafan · 03-25-2009, 12:22 PM

The sad part is I like dx and hbk and hunter problem I have is hbk can put his ego aside and job to people and sell it. Where even when hunter does job, which is rarely, he gets right up after which makes it look tremendously fake and talked away from the victory of the other wrestler. I don't remember who said it but a perfect example is hardy finally winning the title a great moment. However it was ruined by after being pinned hunter getting up and laughing. Once again no selling, but who stands up to him anyone who does is gone from the WWE shortly thereafter.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 12:36 PM

Look we're talking about wrestling here, a business where guys bitch and bitch when they're coming up that they can't get a job and the top guys hold them down then as soon as they get in the spot they turn around and do the same thing. The only top guy who never complained or refused to do jobs was Rock.

Then throw on top of that, that this is the WWE. A company that could careless how over a wrestler is with the crowd they'd rather push their chosen ones 20 times until he's over. And Vince will always have his big man fetish so a big bodybuilder looking plodder will be given 22 chances while other guys get one.

I can really go on and on about all the things the WWE has done to make it where they choose who's over. 'WWE style" is a good example of this if you make everyone wrestle the same it's impossible for someone to get over on ring work. When you script everyone's promo it's impossible for a superior mic worker to stand out on natural charisma.

The WWE is about who Vince wants to be a star and telling the fans to like it, not the other way around. Not to mention the company pecking order is a giant deal there, in WCW guys got held down but no one cared how anyone wrestled so guys went out and put on matches they'd just get stuck in a spot and not be able to move.

In the WWE not only will you get stuck in a spot, but if you were to go out and put on a great match as a low midcarder opening the show a guy like Taker would throw a total bitch fit about how "that curtain jerker is showing is up". That's where I think the 'WWE Style" comes from. It's an easy way to take a great worker and really limit his ability to get over on ring work.

Also for what I said earlier about the misogynistic comment and what was given back...people don't hate Stephanie because she's a woman. People hate her because she's a shitass booker that only has that job because of her last name. People hate Russo to he's not a woman...

Brock · 03-25-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

When you script everyone's promo it's impossible for a superior mic worker to stand out on natural charisma.

Give me an example of this ever happening.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Give me an example of this ever happening.

CM Punk has outstanding charisma, not that you'd never know it with the shitty promos he's given to read.

It happens time and time again, Rob Van Dam was the most over guy in the company for a long period and could never move and was never really given an opportunity to move.

Brock · 03-25-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

CM Punk has outstanding charisma, not that you'd never know it with the shitty promos he's given to read.

It happens time and time again, Rob Van Dam was the most over guy in the company for a long period and could never move and was never really given an opportunity to move.

sounds like a load. You could give Ric Flair a soup can to read and he'd get over.

Mecca · 03-25-2009, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

sounds like a load. You could give Ric Flair a soup can to read and he'd get over.

Flair has had some really bad WWE promos his own self....when you script out promos like that people who are actually good at it are hurt and then guys who aren't sound so ridiculous rehearsed it's funny.

John Cena is a good example he comes off like nothing more than a wannabe cut rate version of the Rock half the time.

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keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	What the **** did I just watch?
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03-25-2009, 06:59 AM	#3349
Swanman It's a league game, Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Itasca, IL Casino cash: $9967354	Flair should now go to Chikara and wrestle the Soviet Cow. Yes, Chikara has some goofy-ass characters.
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03-25-2009, 10:32 AM	#3353
Jerm Mahomes > God Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $5818996	I still maintain that Punk's ROH promo about Raven being just like his dad and the entire straight edge theme is still one of the best ever...it's def. near the top. It was absolutely awesome. I also loved his promo where he signed his WWE contract ON the ROH World Title and ripped Foley apart when he came out...the Summer of Punk was epic.
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03-25-2009, 12:22 PM	#3355
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	The sad part is I like dx and hbk and hunter problem I have is hbk can put his ego aside and job to people and sell it. Where even when hunter does job, which is rarely, he gets right up after which makes it look tremendously fake and talked away from the victory of the other wrestler. I don't remember who said it but a perfect example is hardy finally winning the title a great moment. However it was ruined by after being pinned hunter getting up and laughing. Once again no selling, but who stands up to him anyone who does is gone from the WWE shortly thereafter.
Posts: 4,425

03-25-2009, 12:36 PM	#3356
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2597050	Look we're talking about wrestling here, a business where guys bitch and bitch when they're coming up that they can't get a job and the top guys hold them down then as soon as they get in the spot they turn around and do the same thing. The only top guy who never complained or refused to do jobs was Rock. Then throw on top of that, that this is the WWE. A company that could careless how over a wrestler is with the crowd they'd rather push their chosen ones 20 times until he's over. And Vince will always have his big man fetish so a big bodybuilder looking plodder will be given 22 chances while other guys get one. I can really go on and on about all the things the WWE has done to make it where they choose who's over. 'WWE style" is a good example of this if you make everyone wrestle the same it's impossible for someone to get over on ring work. When you script everyone's promo it's impossible for a superior mic worker to stand out on natural charisma. The WWE is about who Vince wants to be a star and telling the fans to like it, not the other way around. Not to mention the company pecking order is a giant deal there, in WCW guys got held down but no one cared how anyone wrestled so guys went out and put on matches they'd just get stuck in a spot and not be able to move. In the WWE not only will you get stuck in a spot, but if you were to go out and put on a great match as a low midcarder opening the show a guy like Taker would throw a total bitch fit about how "that curtain jerker is showing is up". That's where I think the 'WWE Style" comes from. It's an easy way to take a great worker and really limit his ability to get over on ring work. Also for what I said earlier about the misogynistic comment and what was given back...people don't hate Stephanie because she's a woman. People hate her because she's a shitass booker that only has that job because of her last name. People hate Russo to he's not a woman...
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