Chiefs Pioli Deserves Props - Page 54

Hoover · 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.

Hammock Parties · 05-02-2012, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He couldn't press the ball downfield at all and when the running game wasn't on that was a recipe for disaster.

This isn't true.

See the 49ers game that year.

He also averaged more YPA than Grbac.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-02-2012, 08:15 PM

Not sure why you guys are slobbering over Grbac.

The Chiefs won 5 straight going into the final game where Grbac was complete ass.

Marty made a mistake not starting Gannon. Period.

**BossChief** · 05-02-2012, 08:22 PM

A can't believe anybody argues FOR Grbac.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-02-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

A can't believe anybody argues FOR Grbac.

I can't believe anyone is arguing for either of them.

**Rain Man** · 05-02-2012, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

What? He has like 3 or 4 playoff wins. Played in an AFCC.

Philip Rivers > all Chiefs QBs since Dawson.

Admittedly, my research on the topic was scant before I posted.

htismaqe · 05-03-2012, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

A can't believe anybody argues FOR Grbac.

Of course, that's NOT AT ALL what I said.

Arguing AGAINST Gannon <> arguing FOR Grbac.

For someone who throws 4-year old temper tantrums about people being "intellectually dishonest" you shouldn't be so quick to put words in people's mouth.

You are the biggest ****ing baby on this board, bar none.

Chiefnj2 · 05-03-2012, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat

This.

However, there is an argument to be made that Gannon wouldn't have choked at the end.

IIRC there were a series of errors by Ted Popson who didn't get out of bounds on 2 occasions during the 2 minute drill.

madmike · 05-03-2012, 07:30 AM

I really like the Cyrus Gray pick in the 6th round that was a great value pick, I think gray could be a better version of mccluster for us.

**BigMeatballDave** · 05-03-2012, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

You are the biggest ****ing baby on this board, bar none.

Um, no. That would be Laz.

That is fairly common knowledge

Thig Lyfe · 05-03-2012, 08:59 AM

Matt Cassel sucks.

htismaqe · 05-03-2012, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thig Lyfe

Matt Cassel sucks.

So do you.

CrazyHorse · 05-03-2012, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I can't believe anyone is arguing for either of them.

Says the guy arguing for Sanchez over Cassel. Niether one of those guys could hold Grbac or Gannons jock. What ever that's worth.

Thig Lyfe · 05-03-2012, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So do you.

**The Franchise** · 05-03-2012, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Of course, that's NOT AT ALL what I said.

Arguing AGAINST Gannon <> arguing FOR Grbac.

For someone who throws 4-year old temper tantrums about people being "intellectually dishonest" you shouldn't be so quick to put words in people's mouth.

You are the biggest ****ing baby on this board, bar none.

****ing truth.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-03-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Romeo is mediocre. He's not terrible.

Like all mediocre head coaches, if you give him a franchise QB to work with, he can appear to be a great coach when he's really not.

Still waiting...

04-29-2012, 09:12 AM
Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1628179	Pioli Deserves Props The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed. We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them. After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected. Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it. After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team. If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come. Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for. In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well. Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either. We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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madmike Rookie Join Date: Nov 2011 Casino cash: $10004900	I really like the Cyrus Gray pick in the 6th round that was a great value pick, I think gray could be a better version of mccluster for us.
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