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Old 03-09-2012, 09:25 PM  
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Redskin trade for the number 2 pick Goodbye RGIII

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Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap (cont) http://tl.gd/gbhvr8



Major scoopage: Redskins have agreed to a trade w Rams for #2 pick of draft. Rams and Skins swap first rounders this yr w Rams also getting 2 future #1s and additional picks. Story coming on fox sports dot com




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Washington Redskins traded three first-round draft picks and a second-round pick to St. Louis for second overall pick … http://say.ly/frx1yvb

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Old 03-12-2012, 08:18 AM   #346
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RGIII .. will prolly bust ... let sumone pay him .. fo nuttin .....
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:18 AM   #347
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It's not a matter of not beating the Skins (two firsts and a 2nd - which isn't that big of a price if RGIII becomes a franchise QB), it's the point that they didn't even make an offer.
Washington, from what Peter King wrote, gave up more than anyone EVER, in ANY DRAFT to move up a few slots.

It's possible that Pioli called, and the Rams told him "The Skins have offered up 3 first rounders and a second" and he said "no thanks" from there.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:20 AM   #348
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Washington, from what Peter King wrote, gave up more than anyone EVER, in ANY DRAFT to move up a few slots.

It's possible that Pioli called, and the Rams told him "The Skins have offered up 3 first rounders and a second" and he said "no thanks" from there.
It isn't really 3 first rounders. They move up in this years draft and have a first round pick. They lose out on 2 first rounders and a 2nd. If he's a franchise QB, it's worth it.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:23 AM   #349
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Wow, ESPN never fails to impress. I just heard that when the Redskins draft RGIII they are instantly a 8-9 win team.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:23 AM   #350
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IF RGIII turns out to be a franchise QB this will be regarded as a very good move by the Skins.
IF.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:25 AM   #351
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2 firsts and a second to move up 4 spots.

I don't care if the Chiefs didn't make an offer to move up. Reports out there of what teams were offering to move up 2 or 4 spots was ridiculous enough.
Would you give up Jon Baldwin + Rodney Hudson + Eric Berry to draft a franchise QB?
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:26 AM   #352
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Would you give up Jon Baldwin + Rodney Hudson + Eric Berry to draft a franchise QB?
Am I guaranteed he's going to be a franchise QB? Because the Redskins aren't.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:27 AM   #353
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Would you give up Jon Baldwin + Rodney Hudson + Eric Berry to draft a franchise QB?
You mean a POTENTIAL franchise QB.



It's an obvious "**** yes" I would trade all of those guys for a franchise QB.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:28 AM   #354
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Would you give up Jon Baldwin + Rodney Hudson + Eric Berry to draft a franchise QB?
every day...every minute of every day

but we can't because 'oh noes! it risky!'....whereas having Matt Cassel as your starter for 4 years is not risky...per our fanbase
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Am I guaranteed he's going to be a franchise QB? Because the Redskins aren't.
oh noes! it risky!
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:29 AM   #356
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It isn't really 3 first rounders. They move up in this years draft and have a first round pick. They lose out on 2 first rounders and a 2nd. If he's a franchise QB, it's worth it.
If he's not, the franchise is crippled for years to come.

NOT WORTH IT.

It's not worth it because lots of teams have drafted franchise QB's without giving up a shit ton of picks. You do realize that the Skins are going to be drafting top 10 more than likely for years to come right?

And it is three first rounders. They couldn't just say next year and the next years first rounders and keep this years right? No. They had to give up this years, next years, and next years, and a second. That's three first rounders.
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Am I guaranteed he's going to be a franchise QB? Because the Redskins aren't.
Are you guaranteed that the draft picks you are giving up are going to amount to anything? No.

Having a franchise QB has become the only way to win a Super Bowl in today's NFL. You take any risk necessary to draft a franchise caliber QB.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:30 AM   #358
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If he's not, the franchise is crippled for years to come.

NOT WORTH IT.

It's not worth it because lots of teams have drafted franchise QB's without giving up a shit ton of picks. You do realize that the Skins are going to be drafting top 10 more than likely for years to come right?

And it is three first rounders. They couldn't just say next year and the next years first rounders and keep this years right? No. They had to give up this years, next years, and next years, and a second. That's three first rounders.
Crippled my ass. The Raiders busted at QB and have been giving away draft picks every year. Are they in worse shape than KC?
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Also, with the new rookie contract situation... it makes is much more appealing to go get "your guy" if you really want him. You're not paying him what QBs were paid 2-3 years ago. Helps lighten the risk, potential boat anchor factor.

Nothing in the draft is a 'given'. It's all about calculated risk.
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Are you guaranteed that the draft picks you are giving up are going to amount to anything? No.

Having a franchise QB has become the only way to win a Super Bowl in today's NFL. You take any risk necessary to draft a franchise caliber QB.
You talk like RG3 is a franchise QB. Last I checked he hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL. And the Chiefs would have had to have given up way more than the Redskins did.
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