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12-16-2013, 06:57 PM | #10487 |
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12-16-2013, 06:58 PM | #10488 |
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12-16-2013, 07:01 PM | #10489 |
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12-16-2013, 07:06 PM | #10490 |
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
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12-16-2013, 07:11 PM | #10491 |
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It seems like all the ink around here is spent discussion who is or is not a "franchise" QB. Some sort of mythical designation that some guys have and some don't.
You can even read threads where people talk about guys who are not "franchise QBs" but then are again later, like Philip Rivers. A couple of years ago, there would have been significant debate about Joe Flacco being a "franchise QB". Then he was most definitely was one. Now most people wouldn't be so sure. I don't think the term has any meaning. Some guys we know are good enough to win the Super Bowl with because they've gotten there. Some guys that nobody would consider a "franchise QB" were there. Jeff Hostetler won a super bowl. Brad Johnson won a super bowl. Trent Dilfer won a super bowl. Neil O'Donnell, Rex Grossman, Matt Hasselbeck, Jake Delhomme played in them. Jim Kelly lost four of them. Was he not a "franchise QB"? We'd call him a choker or someone who can't win the big game on Chiefsplanet if he were playing today. He's in the hall of fame. People used to post the same things about Peyton Manning. I don't think the "franchise QB" title means anything. You are what you've done. |
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12-16-2013, 07:13 PM | #10492 |
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I hate to call him injury prone, but he has had some significant injuries over his career. Not sure you want to put him in that situation unnecessarily.
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12-16-2013, 07:15 PM | #10493 |
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I just hate how some people on this forum talk about how high their standards are compared to everybody elses.
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12-16-2013, 07:23 PM | #10494 |
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12-16-2013, 07:24 PM | #10495 | |
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Here is a question I would like to ask again. At the beginning of the season there were a bunch if numb nuts saying we could have gotten a QB just as good as Smith for far less. And that we didn't get the best QB available. You people still believe that? And if so, Who? |
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Would an idiot do that?
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I think the flip side to what you said is the "well, there's no Andrew Luck in this year's draft" from "the rest of us." The truth of the matter is, as usual, somewhere in the middle... it's undeniable that the franchise has made very little effort to develop a quarterback and that overall, they seem pretty content with stop gap QBs who can rise to mediocrity, as opposed to taking a QB who's pretty much guaranteed to struggle for a year or three. It's been low risk/low reward for decades, and they've gotten what they've put into it. It's not as simple as a trip to QBMart, and it's not as simple as waiting for the next Peyton Manning.... but, it is as simple as trying. They've had the same strategy for FORTY YEARS... and I don't think fans are asking too much if they tried once every few decades to do something different.
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12-16-2013, 07:34 PM | #10498 | |
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For the record regarding some of the other comments, I ****ing hate Rivers with a passion and dont want his ass on my team. It may be irrational hatred, but oh well. Any of the other guys mentioned are fine by me though Ryan seems to be overrated IMO. I think I stated before the season started that a playoff win should be the goal this season and was doable. |
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12-16-2013, 07:36 PM | #10499 |
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I think any team that won 11 or 12 games and then lost in the first round would be considered to have had a disappointing end to the season. Whether or not it's the QBs fault depends on how the game played out.
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12-16-2013, 07:41 PM | #10500 | |
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The only constant in the period you're mentioning was Lamar Hunt. He's gone now. Clark made a mistake in his first set of hires. In his last set he brought in guys that absolutely share the preferred position that we should attempt to bring in and develop our own guy. Andy Reid and a Ron Wolf disciple - you'll be hard pressed to find stronger proponents of a 'draft/develop the QB' school. So maybe we should trust that they share your belief (and mine, as well as many others that like the Smith acquisition) but that they simply didn't see a player worth making that attempt this year. Seem fair?
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