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Old 11-13-2012, 05:54 PM   #1
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Not sold on Barkley. Need someone who can perform without uber talent around him.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:59 PM   #2
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:09 PM   #3
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Well the knock I keep hearing about Barkley is he has a stud line and what not. I am not saying he isn't good but how much is him and how much is him being protected by a group of studs?
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:13 PM   #4
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Well the knock I keep hearing about Barkley is he has a stud line and what not. I am not saying he isn't good but how much is him and how much is him being protected by a group of studs?
So, Barkley's been a 4 year starter at USC and you've seen NONE of his games?

Thanks for your input, Pete.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #5
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Well the knock I keep hearing about Barkley is he has a stud line and what not. I am not saying he isn't good but how much is him and how much is him being protected by a group of studs?
Just for you, Pete. JFC.

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep...s-cal-20120922

http://www.foxsportswest.com/09/17/1...lockID=791771&

http://dailytrojan.com/2012/09/18/us...-line-for-cal/

Every one of those articles discuss just HOW BAD the USC offensive line has been this year. There are plenty more.

You're smarter than to act like a dumbass in a thread, Pete.

Stop don't your best Bobtard imitation and stop talking out of your ass.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:31 PM   #6
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:55 PM   #7
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I think that Smith has more obvious physical ability, but there are real questions about offensive system he's in and his performance against real competition.

Barkley's a good bet to at least be a solid NFL QB. Intangibles are all there, and he's run a pro style offense for 4 years.

I think people are making too big of a deal about his arm being weak; it's not weak, it's just not elite. He's super accurate, though.
I don't know if I like Barkley or not, but I don't think he is too bad. Referring to his arm strength, or lack there of. Not too long ago I was watching a tv program that had Bob Greise on it. He was talking about the Dolphins when he played, and the interviewer got around to his arm strength. I thought it was kind of interesting what he had to say. He commented, that he didnt have the greatest arm strength, and there were others in the league that could throw it longer. He did say, it was not that big of a deal. He compensated for his lack of arm strength, by getting the ball out quicker and anticpating where his receivers were going to be. Made sense to me, and I do remember he was a dang good quarterback.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:28 PM   #8
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Barkley is undervalued on this board, and so is Smith. Both are really strong options, and the former is a very high basement.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:30 PM   #9
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Barkley is undervalued on this board, and so is Smith. Both are really strong options, and the former is a very high basement.
It's going to be hard for Barkley to bust. The guy has been a successful four year starter on a team that underwent the loss of 45 scholarships and NCAA probation. He could have easily opted out, not only the 2012 draft, but when the penalties were announced.

I'm not stating that he'll be an Elite QB but I will be shocked if he's a very solid, if not spectacular, NFL QB.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:32 PM   #10
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It's going to be hard for Barkley to bust. The guy has been a successful four year starter on a team that underwent the loss of 45 scholarships, NCAA probation and could have easily opted out not only last year for the draft but the year before.

I'm not stating that he'll be an Elite QB but he will most certainly be a very solid if not spectacular NFL QB.
I tend to agree. He's shown excellent leadership skills, and this is something this franchise desperately needs.

And I meant Wilson, not Smith in my previous post. Brain not linking to my typing.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:32 AM   #11
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It's going to be hard for Barkley to bust. The guy has been a successful four year starter on a team that underwent the loss of 45 scholarships and NCAA probation. He could have easily opted out, not only the 2012 draft, but when the penalties were announced.

I'm not stating that he'll be an Elite QB but I will be shocked if he's a very solid, if not spectacular, NFL QB.
This is true. There is an extremely high correlation between four year college QB starters drafted in the 1st round and NFL success.

Essentially, if you give scouts 3+ years of college game tape and they still like you, then you're pretty good. Most QB busts happen due to taking a QB that has not excelled for more than a year or two, which helps to hide flaws.
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Barkley is undervalued on this board, and so is Smith. Both are really strong options, and the former is a very high basement.
^ This. Smith has a higher ceiling, but Barkley has a higher floor.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:29 PM   #13
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I definitely won't be crying if we take Barkley with a #1 pick. I'll just be happy we didn't take a defensive end. We can get a defensive end in the 2nd or 3rd lol...
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Typically, Barkley does sack up in big games. Really like that he performs in big-time games usually.
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