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**BossChief** · 05-31-2016, 07:18 AM

Mines Dee Ford.

I saw a guy last year wearing #55 that got to QBs with relative ease once he got a chance, but also had trouble finishing plays with sacks instead of pressures....but he also lead the NFL in December in pressures.

Tamba was a very similar player in 2007/2008 and then got over the hump of just creating a lot of pressure and being a poor run defender into becoming a sack machine. I see a similar jump for Ford as a pass rusher (I don't think 9-10 sacks is an unrealistic goal for him).

Who is your breakout player for KC in 2016?

**Meatloaf** · 05-31-2016, 09:12 PM

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Sorry, Mang. I'm super out of it today. This flu sucks.

Hope you get to feeling better, bud.

jspchief · 05-31-2016, 11:55 PM

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Ford's biggest problem with rushing the QB is he takes too big an arc and doesn't engage quickly enough with the OL.

He's all speed an no technique. Until he learns to beat guys with more than speed, he's going to get washed out of a lot of plays.

**Tribal Warfare** · 06-01-2016, 12:57 AM

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He's all speed an no technique. Until he learns to beat guys with more than speed, he's going to get washed out of a lot of plays.

He thinks he's on Derrick's level of quickness and speed on the field but in reality Dee has to know he isn't so he can improve. Ford isn't a generational athlete like Thomas was.

CoMoChief · 06-01-2016, 12:57 AM

Eric Fisher

Supposedly the guy is up to 320 now and has gotten a lot stronger. He needed size and strength, with it I think we'll all see a massive improvement.

I also think the playoff game vs. JJ Watt gave the guy a dumptruck load of confidence in his own game. Sometimes confidence can be just as an important part of improving as anything else (physically). Esp since he's bigger and stronger now and he's starting to see the benefiting results. Just really hope the guy stays healthy. Our depth at tackle is not great by any means.

**Rausch** · 06-01-2016, 01:39 AM

Houston...

**HemiEd** · 06-01-2016, 06:48 AM

As soon as I saw the thread title yesterday, Dee Ford came to mind. Of course, he is the first one you mentioned, as do others.

Eric Fisher was a quick second thought along with Philip Gaines.

IMO, Fisher evolved to at least average last year, something not many players from that draft have done and none of the others were carrying the pressure of 1.1

If all three of these guys were to break out, it would be very, very nice. We are in for a fun ride.

milkman · 06-01-2016, 08:17 AM

So, I see there are some votes for Fisher and LDT, and even Morse.

Let's say that all 3 make the leaps we hope for, and that we have a credible 2nd guard, which means the O-Line as a group takes a laep.

The player who will be perceived as the breakout player in that scenario will be Alex Smith.

I am expecting Rod Streater to rejuvinate his career, and that, combined with the O-Line will lead to Smith putting up bigger numbers than he ever has before, except as a runner, since he should have to scramble less than in the past.

RunKC · 06-01-2016, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

So, I see there are some votes for Fisher and LDT, and even Morse.

Let's say that all 3 make the leaps we hope for, and that we have a credible 2nd guard, which means the O-Line as a group takes a laep.

The player who will be perceived as the breakout player in that scenario will be Alex Smith.

I am expecting Rod Streater to rejuvinate his career, and that, combined with the O-Line will lead to Smith putting up bigger numbers than he ever has before, except as a runner, since he should have to scramble less than in the past.

In 8 games last year, Josh McCown put up 2,109 yards, 12 TD's to 4 INT's and a 64% completion rating with Joe Thomas, Alex Mack, Joel Bitonio and Mitchell Schwartz blocking for him.

Better line=better QB production.

scho63 · 06-01-2016, 08:45 AM

Mike Catapano

O.city · 06-01-2016, 08:46 AM

So, there's gonna be someone that underperforms this year.

Thoughts on who?

O.city · 06-01-2016, 08:48 AM

I think Ford needs more snaps from Hali's spot.

RippedmyFlesh · 06-01-2016, 08:53 AM

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70 catches for Conley?

Cmon man.

40 for 600 yds 5 tds would be breakout year for him

RunKC · 06-01-2016, 08:55 AM

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So, there's gonna be someone that underperforms this year.

Thoughts on who?

Albert Wilson

O.city · 06-01-2016, 08:57 AM

I'm guessing the underperformed guy to be Kelce. All the offseason stuff, added to his tendency to have brain fats on the field.

RippedmyFlesh · 06-01-2016, 09:05 AM

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I'm guessing the underperformed guy to be Kelce. All the offseason stuff, added to his tendency to have brain fats on the field.

He had fun this off season. As long as his fun doesn't affect conditioning, he doesn't seem like the type to let himself go.
I expect gronk like year and maybe fans outside of kc will show some love.

05-31-2016, 07:18 AM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $1834088	Who is your Chiefs breakout player of 2016? Mines Dee Ford. I saw a guy last year wearing #55 that got to QBs with relative ease once he got a chance, but also had trouble finishing plays with sacks instead of pressures....but he also lead the NFL in December in pressures. Tamba was a very similar player in 2007/2008 and then got over the hump of just creating a lot of pressure and being a poor run defender into becoming a sack machine. I see a similar jump for Ford as a pass rusher (I don't think 9-10 sacks is an unrealistic goal for him). Who is your breakout player for KC in 2016?
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Eric Fisher Supposedly the guy is up to 320 now and has gotten a lot stronger. He needed size and strength, with it I think we'll all see a massive improvement. I also think the playoff game vs. JJ Watt gave the guy a dumptruck load of confidence in his own game. Sometimes confidence can be just as an important part of improving as anything else (physically). Esp since he's bigger and stronger now and he's starting to see the benefiting results. Just really hope the guy stays healthy. Our depth at tackle is not great by any means. __________________
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06-01-2016, 06:48 AM	#66
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $3240564	As soon as I saw the thread title yesterday, Dee Ford came to mind. Of course, he is the first one you mentioned, as do others. Eric Fisher was a quick second thought along with Philip Gaines. IMO, Fisher evolved to at least average last year, something not many players from that draft have done and none of the others were carrying the pressure of 1.1 If all three of these guys were to break out, it would be very, very nice. We are in for a fun ride.
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06-01-2016, 08:17 AM	#67
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	So, I see there are some votes for Fisher and LDT, and even Morse. Let's say that all 3 make the leaps we hope for, and that we have a credible 2nd guard, which means the O-Line as a group takes a laep. The player who will be perceived as the breakout player in that scenario will be Alex Smith. I am expecting Rod Streater to rejuvinate his career, and that, combined with the O-Line will lead to Smith putting up bigger numbers than he ever has before, except as a runner, since he should have to scramble less than in the past. __________________
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2704064	So, there's gonna be someone that underperforms this year. Thoughts on who?
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2704064	I think Ford needs more snaps from Hali's spot.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2704064	I'm guessing the underperformed guy to be Kelce. All the offseason stuff, added to his tendency to have brain fats on the field.
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