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Old 04-12-2009, 10:39 AM   #1
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:40 AM   #2
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How many of those 2nd round picks were Pioli's?
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:46 AM   #3
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How many of those 2nd round picks were Pioli's?

He drafted Blackledge. Admittedly, he was smarter than Peterson since he only used a second-rounder, but still....
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:29 AM   #4
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He drafted Blackledge. Admittedly, he was smarter than Peterson since he only used a second-rounder, but still....

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Old 04-12-2009, 10:44 AM   #5
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this. A 2nd round pick #55 in ATL. I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzo says no thanks I quit
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:52 AM   #6
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this. A 2nd round pick #55 in ATL. I wouldn't be surprised if Gonzo says no thanks I quit
He wouldn't want to play for ATL, but he would want to play for KC? What?
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Old 04-12-2009, 10:55 AM   #7
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He wouldn't want to play for ATL, but he would want to play for KC? What?
No shit.

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Yeah, it makes all the sense in the world to pass on ATL and stay in KC.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:00 AM   #8
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Tony G = HOF
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The Chiefs second-rounders are irrelevant. Let's look at how the Pats have done recently:

2000 - RB - J.R. Redmond - Off team
2001 - OT - Matt Light - Pro-Bowler
2002 - WR - Deion Branch - Traded for first round pick in 2006
2003a - DB - Eugene Wilson - Off team
2003b - WR - Bethel Johnson - Off team
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:07 AM   #9
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The Chiefs second-rounders are irrelevant. Let's look at how the Pats have done recently:

2000 - RB - J.R. Redmond - Off team
2001 - OT - Matt Light - Pro-Bowler
2002 - WR - Deion Branch - Traded for first round pick in 2006
2003a - DB - Eugene Wilson - Off team
2003b - WR - Bethel Johnson - Off team
2004 - DE - Marquise Hill - Off team
2005 - (no pick)
2006 - WR - Chad Jackson - Off team
2007 - (no pick)
2008 - CB - Terrence Wheatley - Started 6 of 8 games before injury

I noticed the only O-lineman they selected in the second is a pro bowler. You have to think if we trade back into the second that's going to be the pick since o-line is the strength of this draft.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:18 AM   #10
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I noticed the only O-lineman they selected in the second is a pro bowler. You have to think if we trade back into the second that's going to be the pick since o-line is the strength of this draft.
According to Mike Lombardi - the source of the ATL/Gonzalez rumor - the Chiefs won't have to go trade into the second to go OL:

If one of the two offensive tackles (Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe) slips to Seattle at No. 4, the Seahawks would make the move and select either one, as Walter Jones is not a sure thing to be healthy at the start of the season. Seattle values character and will remove many players from its board for that reason. Smith and Monroe meet their character qualifications. But I doubt either player makes it to Seattle at four.

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Old 04-12-2009, 11:38 AM   #11
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According to Mike Lombardi - the source of the ATL/Gonzalez rumor - the Chiefs won't have to go trade into the second to go OL:

If one of the two offensive tackles (Jason Smith and Eugene Monroe) slips to Seattle at No. 4, the Seahawks would make the move and select either one, as Walter Jones is not a sure thing to be healthy at the start of the season. Seattle values character and will remove many players from its board for that reason. Smith and Monroe meet their character qualifications. But I doubt either player makes it to Seattle at four.

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Maybe he thinks someone will trade up for him, needing the last top OT and expecting Seattle to take him.
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Old 04-12-2009, 09:10 PM   #12
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I noticed the only O-lineman they selected in the second is a pro bowler. You have to think if we trade back into the second that's going to be the pick since o-line is the strength of this draft.
History could bode well for us here. But I can't see TG in anything but that Red and Gold.
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:30 AM   #13
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The Chiefs second-rounders are irrelevant. Let's look at how the Pats have done recently:

2000 - RB - J.R. Redmond - Off team
2001 - OT - Matt Light - Pro-Bowler
2002 - WR - Deion Branch - Traded for first round pick in 2006
2003a - DB - Eugene Wilson - Off team
2003b - WR - Bethel Johnson - Off team
2004 - DE - Marquise Hill - Off team
2005 - (no pick)
2006 - WR - Chad Jackson - Off team
2007 - (no pick)
2008 - CB - Terrence Wheatley - Started 6 of 8 games before injury
I was thinking about this and that other thread claiming the Pats had the worst drafting record, and there are two factors not adequately taken into account:

It's a team loaded with talent. Many more difficult decisions than the Chiefs have been faced with. Also, they're typically picking at the end of every round. Over the long run, they would need to have ridiculously superior drafting to meet the average first rounder/any rounder(but especially the first).
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The Chiefs second-rounders are irrelevant. Let's look at how the Pats have done recently:

2000 - RB - J.R. Redmond - Off team
2001 - OT - Matt Light - Pro-Bowler
2002 - WR - Deion Branch - Traded for first round pick in 2006
2003a - DB - Eugene Wilson - Off team
2003b - WR - Bethel Johnson - Off team
2004 - DE - Marquise Hill - Off team
2005 - (no pick)
2006 - WR - Chad Jackson - Off team
2007 - (no pick)
2008 - CB - Terrence Wheatley - Started 6 of 8 games before injury
Branch - Super Bowl MVP
Light - 2 time Pro Bowler, 1 time All Pro
Wilson - excellent safety until injuries caught up with him. Now with Texans
Hill - Not on team BECAUSE HE DIED
Jackson - Major disappointment in NE, but still in league
Johnson - Good at returns. Too stubborn to adapt to NFL. Legit bust
Wheatley - Had taken over starter's job before getting hurt
Redmond - Drafted in the 3rd round, not 2nd
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Old 04-12-2009, 11:13 AM   #15
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Tony G = HOF
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Chance that TG is playing when this team makes a run at SB=0
Chance that 2nd rd pic is playing when this team is ready=more than TG.
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