Chiefs Who would you want as our next HC: Billick, Cowher or Gruden?

DJ's left nut · 10-02-2012, 12:28 PM

Gimme a defensive HC every single time.

Your coordinators create your game plan, your HC instills attitude. Defensive minded HCs create a more cohesive, aggressive attitude throughout their entire team.

It seems to suggest I would be pro-Cowher but ultimately I went Billick. I know his background is as an OC, but he did a great job with his defenses in Baltimore and really showed that he knew how to operate on both sides of the ball.

Ultimately I wouldn't want any of them, but if forced to pick between those 3, gimme Billick.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-02-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ultimately I wouldn't want any of them, but if forced to pick between those 3, gimme Billick.

I cannot foresee a scenario which any of the guys listed would become head coach of the Chiefs.

If the Chiefs clean house and bring in a young GM, it's likely that GM will hire a younger coach, not a guy old enough to be their dad.

DJ's left nut · 10-02-2012, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I cannot foresee a scenario which any of the guys listed would become head coach of the Chiefs.

If the Chiefs clean house and bring in a young GM, it's likely that GM will hire a younger coach, not a guy old enough to be their dad.

Nor can I.

Well no, that's not true. I think if the Chiefs offered Cowher complete control, he'd come. And probably Billick as well.

Give them the 'Belichick' package and I'll bet they'd give it a go. They'd probably do a half-assed job and suck pretty terribly, but they'd try, IMO.

Like I said - I don't like this plan, just answering the poll.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-02-2012, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I cannot foresee a scenario which any of the guys listed would become head coach of the Chiefs.

If the Chiefs clean house and bring in a young GM, it's likely that GM will hire a younger coach, not a guy old enough to be their dad.

I could see DeCosta taking another lap with Billick, but that's about it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-02-2012, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I could see DeCosta taking another lap with Billick, but that's about it.

That crossed my mind but I didn't post it because I really doubt he'd go that route. I could see him reaching for Rob Ryan before Billick. I don't think Billick's undeserving by any means but I don't think he's the right guy right now for the Chiefs.

But that said, I doubt DeCosta leaves Baltimore and I seriously doubt that Clark would even attempt to pry him away because it would cost a fortune.

Considering that Clark will still owe Pioli a reported $5 million if he fires Poili at the end of 2012, I think we'll see more of an "under the radar" guy like Eliot Wolf or Marc Ross take over - a Ryan Grigson/Thomas Dimitroff kind of guy.

I'd shit my pants if he went after Polian. I truly hope that isn't the case.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-02-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'd shit my pants if he went after Polian. I truly hope that isn't the case.

Or Charley Casserly

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 10-02-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Cowher wasn't phased out. He left after a Super Bowl because his wife died.

He would fix the defense for sure and has always drafted well.

However, NO COACH has EVER won a Super Bowl with two different franchises. Hiring one of these guys would mean you are rebuilding without the hope of winning it all. They'd likely have to pass the baton for that to happen.

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Originally Posted by whoman69

This point needs to be repeated

And it needs to be repeated again. I haven't even allowed myself to think about it. I know people will call me nuts, but Bobby Petrino is a guy I would ABSOLUTELY talk too. Jay Gruden is another guy that intrigues me to some degree. I'd have to put some thought into it from there.

Here's the thing on Petrino. He walked into an absolutely ****ed situation in Atlanta. Yeah what he did was ****ed, but ultimately, he didn't sign up for a rebuild. The situation changed considerably when he got there. He's a helluva coach. Don't believe me? Look at Arkansas now. Same ****ing players. I think he would be successful here.

Ultimately, none of it ****ing matters without a competent QB. Notice I didn't say exceptional.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 10-02-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

That crossed my mind but I didn't post it because I really doubt he'd go that route. I could see him reaching for Rob Ryan before Billick. I don't think Billick's undeserving by any means but I don't think he's the right guy right now for the Chiefs.

But that said, I doubt DeCosta leaves Baltimore and I seriously doubt that Clark would even attempt to pry him away because it would cost a fortune.

Considering that Clark will still owe Pioli a reported $5 million if he fires Poili at the end of 2012, I think we'll see more of an "under the radar" guy like Eliot Wolf or Marc Ross take over - a Ryan Grigson/Thomas Dimitroff kind of guy.

I'd shit my pants if he went after Polian. I truly hope that isn't the case.

I tend to agree with this. And for the record, I'd be pretty happy with a guy like Wolf if DeCosta wasn't available.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-02-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I tend to agree with this. And for the record, I'd be pretty happy with a guy like Wolf if DeCosta wasn't available.

I think (and it's only speculation at this point) that Wolf would be an excellent hire. He's done a great job in Green Bay and has his father's ear. But with that said, as GM only. None of this handing the franchise over to one guy nonsense.

Clark needs to hire a football administrator to hire a football GM. That's one of the reasons I agreed with ChiefsCountry about Russ Ball yesterday. Ball would be the perfect choice as President with Wolf as his GM, then hire a coach and work as a committee instead of a dictatorship.

I realize that Clark, like his father, just wants to hire ONE GUY to run everything but that just isn't a reality in today's NFL. It's not a part time job, like it was in the 60's and 70's and it's WAY too much to handle for one guy.

I firmly believe that 2008's excellent draft class wasn't an accident: All of the draft decisions had been stripped from Carl, so Kuharich and the scouts worked with Herm to create the best draft class in decades for the Chiefs.

This is the type of scenario that needs to happen if the Chiefs to be successful moving forward.

View Poll Results: Who would you want as our next HC: Billick, Cowher or Gruden?
Billick	12	9.02%
Cowher	43	32.33%
Gruden	38	28.57%
Other	40	30.08%
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