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Old 12-07-2012, 12:42 AM   #1
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:04 AM   #2
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:11 AM   #3
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Should the corner kick be eliminated from soccer?

"The first step was to analyze data provided on the FIFA World Cup website. They provide videos of all goals scored as well as statistics on the number of corner kicks attempted. There were 145 goals scored in the World Cup. Of the 627 corner kicks that were attempted, 271 connected with an offensive player (43%). Of those, 9 goals were scored from a corner played into the penalty area resulting in a shot. That’s a ratio of 1 goal scored for every 70 corners taken. Part of the difficulty with this analysis is defining how a goal is scored from a corner kick. Many consider more than one pass beyond the corner kick as free play. Others consider any goal scored where the run of play was initiated with a corner to have resulted from the corner. For example, a poor clearance by a defender that results in a successful shot could be attributed to the corner kick. Likewise a short corner that is touched a few times then played into the box and headed in might also be considered. If you also count goals that resulted from poor clearances (5) and from short corners (2), a total of 14 goals resulted from corner kicks. This brings the ratio down to 1 goal for every 45 corners attempted.

Using this approach, corner kicks accounted for as few as 6% or many as 10% of the goals scored during the 2010 World Cup and corner kicks resulted in a goal once every 4.5 to 7 matches."

http://www.scienceofsocceronline.com...y-numbers.html

I don't know offhand how many matches were played in the World Cup. But that's 9 scores on 627 attempts, give or take.
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Old 12-07-2012, 11:10 AM   #4
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Should the corner kick be eliminated from soccer?

"The first step was to analyze data provided on the FIFA World Cup website. They provide videos of all goals scored as well as statistics on the number of corner kicks attempted. There were 145 goals scored in the World Cup. Of the 627 corner kicks that were attempted, 271 connected with an offensive player (43%). Of those, 9 goals were scored from a corner played into the penalty area resulting in a shot. That’s a ratio of 1 goal scored for every 70 corners taken. Part of the difficulty with this analysis is defining how a goal is scored from a corner kick. Many consider more than one pass beyond the corner kick as free play. Others consider any goal scored where the run of play was initiated with a corner to have resulted from the corner. For example, a poor clearance by a defender that results in a successful shot could be attributed to the corner kick. Likewise a short corner that is touched a few times then played into the box and headed in might also be considered. If you also count goals that resulted from poor clearances (5) and from short corners (2), a total of 14 goals resulted from corner kicks. This brings the ratio down to 1 goal for every 45 corners attempted.

Using this approach, corner kicks accounted for as few as 6% or many as 10% of the goals scored during the 2010 World Cup and corner kicks resulted in a goal once every 4.5 to 7 matches."

http://www.scienceofsocceronline.com...y-numbers.html

I don't know offhand how many matches were played in the World Cup. But that's 9 scores on 627 attempts, give or take.
If you want to fix soccer, just eliminate the offside rule, and things will get much better IMO. The one thing that kills most folks about soccer is the lack of scoring. We may not need to to be like basket ball and have a score every 12 seconds, but letting folks hang close, but out of the goal areas (but it'd be fine to be inside the penalty box), would go a long way to making the game better. Once again, just my opinion..

But back to football, JC, if they do this, it'll be horrible. Then again, with so many KOs having flags thrown, I'm not sure they're as exciting as they used to be...
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Old 12-08-2012, 12:57 AM   #5
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If you want to fix soccer, just eliminate the offside rule, and things will get much better IMO. The one thing that kills most folks about soccer is the lack of scoring. We may not need to to be like basket ball and have a score every 12 seconds, but letting folks hang close, but out of the goal areas (but it'd be fine to be inside the penalty box), would go a long way to making the game better. Once again, just my opinion..
Offside isn't called that often and it is in place for organized offense. You think they put it in there for no reason? It encourages creative offensive movement.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:15 AM   #6
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I'm piecing together some stats here. According to this (http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...-effect-on-nfl), 1374 kickoffs were returned in 2011. So 10 scores on 1374 returns, that's roughly half the scoring of corner kicks. Of course that's playoff soccer, with the best teams. I assume that if you look at regular season totals that corner kicks would result in less scoring, as the overall quality of play would be lower.
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I assume that if you look at regular season totals that corner kicks would result in less scoring, as the overall quality of play would be lower.
Meh...

The level of offense AND defense goes up and down when you talk about different levels of quality. Bad defensive blunders can lead to a lot of goals between teams of low quality.
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they need to change the game's name to throwball now

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