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Old 02-11-2012, 12:57 PM  
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Who's your favorite 2nd tier QB of all time?
You know the type. Your basic lunch pail guys who won some games, but wasn't exactly a franchise or top tier QB. Guys like:

Jay Schroeder
Stan Humphries
Brian Griese
Steve Deberg


Who was your fave?
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:18 PM   #91
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Hmm... here's one that just popped into my head. Dan Pastorini. Terrible early on but so were the Oilers. Later on, with Earl Campbell (funny how this works) he was a pretty good QB.
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:19 PM   #92
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He's in the HoF, so I wouldn't think he qualifies as 2nd tier.
Just cause he is black. Dude never won shit. KC at Houston 93, Ftw.
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:23 PM   #93
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Steve Young was 2nd tier for several years wasn't he?
No, high [#1?] pick for VERY shitty team, then traded to best team in league to sit behind the greatest QB ever, eventually replaced him and won SB of own.

A unique story in the NFL, but never 2nd tier talent.
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:23 PM   #94
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Just cause he is black. Dude never won shit. KC at Houston 93, Ftw.
You would think that he could have engineered one second half drive against the Bills that would have stopped the bleeding.

He's in the HoF because his of his numbers.
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Old 02-11-2012, 10:24 PM   #95
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He's in the HoF, so I wouldn't think he qualifies as 2nd tier.
Guess Jurgenson is out too.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #96
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Would you include guys like Randall Cunningham and Michael Vick on this list? I would.


I dont think either will be a Hall of Famer.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:33 AM   #98
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I don't know if I'd consider Trent Green 2nd tier. If he is, he's high second tier. Far better than Aaron Brooks or Stan Humphries. For four straight seasons Green was stastically one of the five best QBs in the game. He never won a playoff game, but I'd hardly put that on him. I guess looking at his entire career, he could be considered 2nd tier. But he was top knotch in KC.

Excluding Green, some of my favs were:

Dave Kreig
Jim Everett
Chris Miller
Jeff Blake
Jeff George
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:39 AM   #99
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I don't know if I'd consider Trent Green 2nd tier. If he is, he's high second tier. Far better than Aaron Brooks or Stan Humphries. For four straight seasons Green was stastically one of the five best QBs in the game. He never won a playoff game, but I'd hardly put that on him. I guess looking at his entire career, he could be considered 2nd tier. But he was top knotch in KC.

Excluding Green, some of my favs were:

Dave Kreig
Jim Everett
Chris Miller
Jeff Blake
Jeff George
Green is definately 2nd tier by my defination. Not a Hall of Famer, but was a solid QB for several seasons. Humpries took his team to a Super Bowl for what its worth.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:43 AM   #100
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:44 AM   #101
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:56 AM   #103
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:13 AM   #104
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2nd tier? These guys are like 4th tier. Trent Green or Rich Gannon would be 2nd tier.
Maybe not for a long time, but a 2 time MVP is top tier IMO.
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Old 03-05-2013, 01:54 PM   #105
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So can we add Matt Cassel and Alex Smith to this list?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

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