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Old 03-14-2010, 03:01 PM  
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Brady Quinn to Denver
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I'm reporting brady quinn was just traded to denver for peyton hillis and 2 conditional draft picks 2 minutes ago via UberTwitter

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Broncos traded FB Peyton Hillis, a 2011 6th-round draft selection and a late-round 2012 pick to Cleveland for quarterback Brady Quinn. less than a minute ago via UberTwitter
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:39 PM   #61
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I'd have taken Wimbley seeing how starved this team is for rushers but hey don't worry we got Mike Vrabel resigned!
Now this might be a legitimate criticism (depends on what Oakland gave up). Not trading for a terrible quarterback that went for 2 late draft picks and a FB really isn't.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:41 PM   #62
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Now this might be a legitimate criticism (depends on what Oakland gave up). Not trading for a terrible quarterback that went for 2 late draft picks and a FB really isn't.
Lots of people are just tired of Cassel is why that gets brought up.

I think it's pretty apparent this team is not going to make any QB moves.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:41 PM   #63
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Good deal for Denver.

Low risk, high reward.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:42 PM   #64
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This draft will definetly let us know our mastermind GM thinks, i hope some good picks are made to give me some hope
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:42 PM   #65
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How about because the guy talked about how he loved the preseason cut time and we put in 1 claim...for a guy from NE. How about because all we could do was sign or trade for trash from the tree?
Of course I don't like that decision. But I fail to see how this has anything to do with ego. Nothing this offseason has led me to believe that he is only interested in bringing ex-Patriots. We passed on Jarvis Green and Ben Watson, and didn't even try to make a play for Bodden.

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How about the freezing out the past scouts story? How about drafting defensive players in a draft that was offensively strong because the 3-4 had to be shoehorned in?
I've never defended either of these two decisions. But that doesn't discount his history that he trusts his group of advisors. Now that he has his own scouts and coaches in place, I don't see any reason why he wouldn't listen to him.

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How about that Mike Vrabel ****ing got resigned when he sucks complete donkey dick.
Your basis for this argument is really going to be around a veteran player signed to a 1-year contract that costs nothing against the cap?

Trading for Cassel was probably a big mistake. And it was probably a mistake of loyalty. But given the structure of his contract, I don't see any reason why you or anyone thinks that anyone in this organization is married to Cassel being a franchise QB.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:42 PM   #66
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Now this might be a legitimate criticism (depends on what Oakland gave up). Not trading for a terrible quarterback that went for 2 late draft picks and a FB really isn't.
I agree. He is young and would be a good fit here
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:43 PM   #67
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Denver got BQ for pretty cheap. The challenge for trading Quinn (for Cleveland) was that the acquiring team would have to assume the large contract. So, Denver assumes a large contract for Quinn, which uses up $$$ that Bowlen could redeploy elsewhere.

McDaniels thinks, apparently, he's a God at coaching QBs, so let's see what happens. If he brings BQ around to be a starter, they stole him. If not, they have more dead weight on their roster and a QB controversy to destabilize Orton, which would be fine for us.
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Old 03-14-2010, 03:43 PM   #68
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We're one draft away from knowing, with much accuracy, what we need to know about Pioli.
Maybe. Though, if he does, I wonder how many of the haters will just say he got lucky, or will need additional season to see if he's for real.
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The 2012 draft pick in the Brady Quinn trade can range from a mid-to-late round selection, based on performance. Another busy day for Browns
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Players they don't admit they were wrong on...Laurence Maroney is STILL there.

Using a 2nd round pick like Chad Jackson as an example is kinda weak, he got hurt and all that jazz. Cassel is Pioli's first move as a new GM, I have a hard time seeing him just readily admitting he ****ed up.
On a relatively cheap contract, give he was the 21st pick. You can never have enough RBs.
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That's a bad argument, trading for Cassel prevented them from making a play on a QB in back to back years with a top 5 pick, there's more there than just "Oh well we can move on"
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Denver got BQ for pretty cheap. The challenge for trading Quinn (for Cleveland) was that the acquiring team would have to assume the large contract. So, Denver assumes a large contract for Quinn, which uses up $$$ that Bowlen could redeploy elsewhere.

McDaniels thinks, apparently, he's a God at coaching QBs, so let's see what happens. If he brings BQ around to be a starter, they stole him. If not, they have more dead weight on their roster and a QB controversy to destabilize Orton, which would be fine for us.
What large contract?

They were just saying on Sirius NFL Radio this afternoon that Quinn's base salary is 700K in each of the next two seasons.

He only gets paid more if he hits certain performance clauses - and even then, it maxes out at $5M per.
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On a relatively cheap contract, give he was the 21st pick. You can never have enough RBs.
Maroney is ****ing terrible, the fact that they haven't replaced them speaks to how shitty they've been drafting lately, Hootie could even draft a productive RB.
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Lot of teams were in Wimbley derby - think Browns got a 3rd round pick and Raiders' 3rd obviously higher than others.
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