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Old 08-28-2007, 03:31 PM   Topic Starter
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OFFICIAL Debunking the Planet's Chiefs Myths Thread

This thread is dedicated to educating and correcting some growing myths that are perpetuating throughout this BB.

1. We should have kept Lawrence Tynes!

Not even no, HELL NO! Some people have very short memories. Lawrence Tynes missed a 23yd FG in the playoffs. YOU CANNOT COUNT ON A KICKER WHO MISSES A 23 YARD FG IN THE PLAYOFFS. He also missed extra points. This preseason he is kicking a dismal 33% and may get cut by the Giants.

While Medlock hasn't been perfect (50% thus far through 3 preseason games), he has a big leg and a lot of talent. He'll get better, but there may be some growing pains. If you want a young kicker to develop, you've got to stick with him.

For instance, in Nate Kaedings rookie year he kicked 80%, which isn't bad but wouldn't have cracked the top-20 last year. Since, he's improved each year (87.5 in 2005 and 89.7 in 2006). Matt Stover kicked at 72% his first 3 years in the league. He's averaged 86% over the last 13 seasons.

2. We have the worst offensive line in the league!

Yes, we have been spoiled throughout the years with greats such as Dave Szott, Tim Grunhard, John Alt, Will Shields and Willie Roaf among others. Our line, while not spectacular, is still very solid. Don't let the preseason fool you. We are solid inside with Waters-Weigman-Welbourne. Outside we improve at both tackle positions with Turley and McIntosh. We have yet to see our starting offensive line play together along with Jason Dunn and a blocking FB. Save the hysteria until we see the real unit take the field.

There are several teams with lines worse than ours - Oakland, Miami, Houston, Green Bay, Buffalo, Arizona, Tampa and Detroit to name a few. For entertainment sake, here is an offensive line ranking from last season: http://www.nfl.com/goto?id=09000d5d80025d3e

Our line has improved from last season with the departure of I-65 and Sampson and the addition of McIntosh and moving Turley to RT.

3. Samie Parker will get cut!

Despite what goatcheese writes, Samie Parker will be a Chief during the 2007 season. The fact is that no other WR (Hannon, Webb, etc.) has stepped it up enough to take his job. Yes, Samie has the drops. Yes, many of us would like to see him go. However, it will not happen this year.

4. Damon "Downfield" Huard

For some reason many believe that Damon Huard cannot throw the long ball. Convinced, they are, that we are destined for a season of dump off passes in the flat, quick outs and 10 yard overthrown routes (since the furthest Damon can throw is 15yds, a 5 yard overthrow). None of these claims are true, however. Last season Damon Huard had the 9th longest completion in the NFL at 78 yards. In fact, in just 8 starts, Damon had 23 completions of 20+ yards and 5 of 40+.

5. We need to draft a Top-5 pick OT

This is absolute bullshit. A lot of top pick OTs don't pan out (see Robert Gallery, Mike Williams, Leonard Davis among others). Additionally we have a much greater need at QB than O-Line. We just signed McIntosh who can fill in at LT for a while. We should be able to sign a RT to take over for Turley in the offseason. As it stands now, our OLine is not that bad. Today we had a 4.5 ypc average. There were holes there for the running game. We also didn't yeild a single sack until after the game was 17-0. By then we were in obvious passing situations and no O-Line is going to stand up to that type of pressure. Brian Brohm, Colt McCoy, another WR or more D help? Fine. But a top-5 pick offensive lineman is not our #1 need. Even moreso because I don't think Jake Long is the answer.

More to come on an as-needed basis.

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Old 08-28-2007, 03:39 PM   #2
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:47 PM   #3
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:50 PM   #4
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:57 PM   #5
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"2. We have the worst offensive line in the league!"

Worst, probably not, top ten not even close, bad, you bet, bottom dweller absolutely (until proven otherwise, and that is no myth).
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Old 08-28-2007, 05:09 PM   #6
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"2. We have the worst offensive line in the league!"

Worst, probably not, top ten not even close, bad, you bet, bottom dweller absolutely (until proven otherwise, and that is no myth).
I don't think that's your call. DaKCMan AP is the final arbiter here.
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Old 08-28-2007, 08:44 PM   #7
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"2. We have the worst offensive line in the league!"

Worst, probably not, top ten not even close, bad, you bet, bottom dweller absolutely (until proven otherwise, and that is no myth).
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3. This is a rebuilding year.

The term rebuilding in football circles generaly implies that the GM is aware that the team has too many glaring weaknesses to compete for a playoff spot. Therefore, they trade away and cut aging vets and insert young and inexperienced players in the hopes that a year or two later, the team is competitive. This is most obvious with the QB. If this were a true "rebuilding" year, Brodie Croyle would be starting. As would guys like Herb Taylor (looks great at LT against 2nd teamers), Brackenridge, and maybe even Kershaw. But no, Herm and Carl both believe there is a chance at making the playoffs this year. If not, they would not have brought in Macintosh and Donnie Edwards. If they are sitting 3-8, late in the season, it will probably become a rebuilding year as far as youth goes, but until they hit that 8th loss, it isn't.
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3. This is a rebuilding year.

The term rebuilding in football circles generaly implies that the GM is aware that the team has too many glaring weaknesses to compete for a playoff spot. Therefore, they trade away and cut aging vets and insert young and inexperienced players in the hopes that a year or two later, the team is competitive. This is most obvious with the QB. If this were a true "rebuilding" year, Brodie Croyle would be starting. As would guys like Herb Taylor (looks great at LT against 2nd teamers), Brackenridge, and maybe even Kershaw. But no, Herm and Carl both believe there is a chance at making the playoffs this year. If not, they would not have brought in Macintosh and Donnie Edwards. If they are sitting 3-8, late in the season, it will probably become a rebuilding year as far as youth goes, but until they hit that 8th loss, it isn't.
Alas, you're right. I hope every year that they would take a step back to move 2 forward. Yet, they try to do both and it ultimately holds them back.
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Truth or myth? The Chiefs organization and any fans who don't condemn the choice of Damon Huard to start the opener in the strongest of terms are hoping for a 9-7 season?
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Old 08-28-2007, 03:49 PM   #13
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Truth or myth? The Chiefs organization and any fans who don't condemn the choice of Damon Huard to start the opener in the strongest of terms are hoping for a 9-7 season?
Myth, except for KCJohnny. In his case it's truth.
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Old 08-28-2007, 10:08 PM   #14
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Myth, except for KCJohnny. In his case it's truth.
Exactly. I am and have always been a true believer. Which is why I had to reject Ramifization and why for me, the jury is still out on the Herm Edwards Chiefs.

On the subject of myths, its also a myth that the Chiefs' organizational weakness is at QB. The Chiefs have sent nearly all of their starting QBs to the PB since 1990 - how many teams can say that?
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Exactly. I am and have always been a true believer. Which is why I had to reject Ramifization and why for me, the jury is still out on the Herm Edwards Chiefs.

On the subject of myths, its also a myth that the Chiefs' organizational weakness is at QB. The Chiefs have sent nearly all of their starting QBs to the PB since 1990 - how many teams can say that?
When did Deberg make the Pro Bowl as a Chief? Matter of fact did Montana even make it as a Chief? Bono? On recall I am thinking you are having a amazing trip down memory lane.
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