Chiefs What's the least you'd settle for in order to trade down? - Page 4

Direckshun · 03-19-2013, 11:10 AM

I don't think the #1 pick can be traded. A lot of you disagree with me.

Let's test out what you'd even be willing to accept.

Poll forthcoming.

CupidStunt · 03-19-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I voted for a 2nd. It really depends on how far down you're going though. If we were trading with Jacksonville and we had confidence that they weren't going to take our top guy, I'd take almost anything, even a 7th. If we were trading down to 10th, it would take considerably more than a 2nd.

I guess I'm saying that I'd take a 2nd to trade down to Phili's 4th pick or so.

I dunno about 10, but I'd trade with Buffalo (8) if they made a decent, fair offer. QB, 2 tackles, Floyd and Milliner are all going before that. None of those guys we want. That leaves 3 edge rushers, the 3rd tackle, or more scope for an off-the-board pick (WR or something).

CupidStunt · 03-19-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

I voted for a 2nd. It really depends on how far down you're going though. If we were trading with Jacksonville and we had confidence that they weren't going to take our top guy, I'd take almost anything, even a 7th. If we were trading down to 10th, it would take considerably more than a 2nd.

I guess I'm saying that I'd take a 2nd to trade down to Phili's 4th pick or so.

Including players in trades like that so rarely take place or even just make sense (mainly because it's hard to value a player like a draft pick), but one guy who stands out as making a lot of sense is Byrd from Buffalo.

Of course, when I say makes sense, I probably only mean for KC, since I doubt Buffalo wants to create yet another hole on its roster.

CaliforniaChief · 03-19-2013, 01:52 PM

I'll go a little further, stating what I'd want from each hypothetical bidder:

2. Jacksonville: I'll take Dane's offer...swap firsts, a 2nd next year and a 3rd this year. We could bundle two thirds and get back into the 2nd round if we wanted to, or just hang tight and draft 3 times in the third with the compensatory pick.

4. Philadelphia: Swap firsts and take next year's first.

7. Arizona: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first next year.

8. Buffalo: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first and third next year (because Buffalo literally has NO options at QB.)

Hamas is right. ANY deal (maybe save JAX) must net us a first round pick. And maybe even that. We have to have the picks ready to move up and get a QB if Alex Smith fails and we need to get a QBOTF.

Bewbies · 03-19-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'll go a little further, stating what I'd want from each hypothetical bidder:

2. Jacksonville: I'll take Dane's offer...swap firsts, a 2nd next year and a 3rd this year. We could bundle two thirds and get back into the 2nd round if we wanted to, or just hang tight and draft 3 times in the third with the compensatory pick.

4. Philadelphia: Swap firsts and take next year's first.

7. Arizona: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first next year.

8. Buffalo: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first and third next year (because Buffalo literally has NO options at QB.)

Hamas is right. ANY deal (maybe save JAX) must net us a first round pick. And maybe even that. We have to have the picks ready to move up and get a QB if Alex Smith fails and we need to get a QBOTF.

If everyone else is offering a 1st (for arguments sake) JAX would have to offer theirs up too. If they want the QB that is...

If you have multiple teams bidding you want to drive the price up, and make the price for a team in the top 5 to be the same as a team lower than that.

You never win in a trade out of the 1 hole though, so count me as a guy that doesn't want to trade down. But my avi kind of does that anyway...

**RealSNR** · 03-19-2013, 02:27 PM

I would need Direckshun's whore mother and AT LEAST 15 baseball bats. 8 is unacceptable.

Pasta Little Brioni · 03-19-2013, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapist

I would need Direckshun's whore mother and AT LEAST 15 baseball bats. 8 is unacceptable.

You trying to make room for him to crawl back in?

Buckweath · 03-19-2013, 02:46 PM

It would be wise to at least try to trade with the one team which you feel will be real bad next year even with Geno with the hope to get a real high 1st round pick next year and pick one of those supposedly elite QBs next year if Alex Smith falters.

BlackHelicopters · 03-19-2013, 04:11 PM

Second this, and first and second next.

keg in kc · 03-19-2013, 04:12 PM

I don't expect it to be traded either. If it is, I think people should probably lower their expectations in terms of the value in return.

**wazu** · 03-19-2013, 04:36 PM

Oh look! Another poll that contains no acceptable options!

jd1020 · 03-19-2013, 04:39 PM

It's the #1 pick. It all depends on who's the trade partner but I'm not even entertaining an offer that doesn't involve a 2014 1st.

CupidStunt · 03-19-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop

Second this, and first and second next.

Them: "So you won't take our first, second, future 1st and 3rd?"

You: "No. Has to be 1st, 2nd, future 1st and future 2nd."

Them: "You're absolutely sure?"

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With the 1st pick in the NFL Draft, the Kansas City Chiefs select Right Tackle Luke Joeckel.

View Poll Results: Chiefs give up #1 pick. In addition to the other team's 1st, the Chiefs get:
a 2nd this year, and their 1st and 2nd next year, plus extra picks.	9	10.98%
a 2nd this year, and their 1st and 2nd next year.	17	20.73%
a 2nd this year, and their 1st next year.	30	36.59%
a 2nd this year, and their 2nd next year.	10	12.20%
a 2nd and a third this year.	4	4.88%
a 2nd this year, and their 3rd next year.	4	4.88%
a 2nd and a midrounder this year.	1	1.22%
a 2nd this year, and a midrounder next year.	2	2.44%
a 2nd this year.	6	7.32%
a 1st next year.	5	6.10%
a 3rd this year, and a 1st next year.	3	3.66%
a 3rd this year, and a 2nd next year.	1	1.22%
a 3rd this year, and a 2nd next year.	0	0%
a 3rd this year, and a 3rd next year.	0	0%
a 3rd and a midrounder this year.	0	0%
a 3rd this year.	0	0%
even less than a 3rd this year.	0	0%
Other (please explain).	4	4.88%
Direckshun's whore of a mother and eight baseball bats.	11	13.41%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

03-19-2013, 11:10 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4293447	What's the least you'd settle for in order to trade down? I don't think the #1 pick can be traded. A lot of you disagree with me. Let's test out what you'd even be willing to accept. Poll forthcoming.
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03-19-2013, 01:52 PM	#48
CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12392899	I'll go a little further, stating what I'd want from each hypothetical bidder: 2. Jacksonville: I'll take Dane's offer...swap firsts, a 2nd next year and a 3rd this year. We could bundle two thirds and get back into the 2nd round if we wanted to, or just hang tight and draft 3 times in the third with the compensatory pick. 4. Philadelphia: Swap firsts and take next year's first. 7. Arizona: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first next year. 8. Buffalo: Swap firsts, a 2nd + 5th this year, a first and third next year (because Buffalo literally has NO options at QB.) Hamas is right. ANY deal (maybe save JAX) must net us a first round pick. And maybe even that. We have to have the picks ready to move up and get a QB if Alex Smith fails and we need to get a QBOTF.
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03-19-2013, 02:27 PM	#50
RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2260208	I would need Direckshun's whore mother and AT LEAST 15 baseball bats. 8 is unacceptable.
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03-19-2013, 02:46 PM	#52
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	It would be wise to at least try to trade with the one team which you feel will be real bad next year even with Geno with the hope to get a real high 1st round pick next year and pick one of those supposedly elite QBs next year if Alex Smith falters.
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03-19-2013, 04:11 PM	#53
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03-19-2013, 04:12 PM	#54
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	I don't expect it to be traded either. If it is, I think people should probably lower their expectations in terms of the value in return.
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03-19-2013, 04:36 PM	#55
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $2102295 VARSITY	Oh look! Another poll that contains no acceptable options!
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03-19-2013, 04:39 PM	#56
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7732645	It's the #1 pick. It all depends on who's the trade partner but I'm not even entertaining an offer that doesn't involve a 2014 1st.
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