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Old 12-19-2011, 04:52 AM   #1
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The Chiefs loved Herm when he was here, too. Worked out well.
Who except the jilted fans of the Chiefs and Jets doesn't like Herm? He's a likable, charismatic guy who says things people like to hear. He's like the black Dick Vermeil.

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If we hire Crennel as HC it will be a complete waste of everyone's time.
Not sure how you can say this with such certainty at this point.

You're referencing past events as though what happened then will most definitely repeat itself now even though the circumstances are completely different. You seem to dislike Crennel because he's old. Which is ridiculous because I could point out that Dick Vermeil won a SuperBowl when he was older than Romeo. But I recognize that there are really no parallels between Dick Vermeil and Romeo Crennel other than age. In short, you don't know jack but you run around here talking out your ass as if you're some kind of expert on all things Chiefs and the NFL. You're basically Mecca without the mullet.
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Old 12-19-2011, 04:57 AM   #2
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Agree.


Who except the jilted fans of the Chiefs and Jets doesn't like Herm? He's a likable, charismatic guy who says things people like to hear. He's like the black Dick Vermeil.


Not sure how you can say this with such certainty at this point.

You're referencing past events as though what happened then will most definitely repeat itself now even though the circumstances are completely different. You seem to dislike Crennel because he's old. Which is ridiculous because I could point out that Dick Vermeil won a SuperBowl when he was older than Romeo. But I recognize that there are really no parallels between Dick Vermeil and Romeo Crennel other than age. In short, you don't know jack but you run around here talking out your ass as if you're some kind of expert on all things Chiefs and the NFL. You're basically Mecca without the mullet.
Find me a 64-year old interim head coach who went on to win a SB.

If Crennel is our HC and actually wins a SB here it will shock everyone in the NFL. It would be unprecedented.

Sorry for being concerned when 50 years of NFL history says this won't work out.

And FYI, Dick was younger than Romeo when he won it.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:17 AM   #3
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Find me a 64-year old interim head coach who went on to win a SB.

If Crennel is our HC and actually wins a SB here it will shock everyone in the NFL. It would be unprecedented.

Sorry for being concerned when 50 years of NFL history says this won't work out.

And FYI, Dick was younger than Romeo when he won it.
50 years of NFL history says that a QB won't throw a TD in 41 consecutive games either. 50 years of NFL history says that nobody will touch Tom Dempsey's 63 yard FG.
Weeb Ewbank, Tom Coughlin, and Dick Vermeil all won SuperBowls in their 60's. Dick was 63ish when he won it with the Rams.

I'm not even certain I want Crennel coaching the Chiefs in 2012 yet but your thought process is ridiculous.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:25 AM   #4
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50 years of NFL history says that a QB won't throw a TD in 41 consecutive games either. 50 years of NFL history says that nobody will touch Tom Dempsey's 63 yard FG.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Individual records are bound to fall.

You can bring up other old head coaches but that's not really an argument for Romeo. All those guys were proven head coaches.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:33 AM   #5
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You're comparing apples to oranges.
That's what you did when you compared the current situation to what happened with Gantz and the players 25 years ago.
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Old 12-19-2011, 09:20 AM   #6
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You're comparing apples to oranges. Individual records are bound to fall.

You can bring up other old head coaches but that's not really an argument for Romeo. All those guys were proven head coaches.
Keep moving the goalposts, Clay. You told me to find old SuperBowl winning coaches. I gave you three. But that doesn't meet with your agenda so it's not good enough. Do you even realize you do that? It's like debating with a teenager.

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Old 12-19-2011, 04:48 PM   #7
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You told me to find old SuperBowl winning coaches. I gave you three. .
No, I didn't.

Here is what I said:

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Find me a 64-year old interim head coach who went on to win a SB.
Doesn't exist.

You can find a few guys who were already on staff and promoted to HC after the previous HC left (John Madden, George Seifert), but they were ALL under 50.

There's 0 reason to believe Crennel could win a Super Bowl here as HC.

And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.

Bad ****ing idea.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:18 PM   #8
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There's 0 reason to believe Crennel could win a Super Bowl here as HC.
There's zero reason to believe anybody but Hank Stram will win a superbowl in KC because that's what 50 years of NFL history has taught us. Somebody get to work raising that man from the dead.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:25 PM   #9
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And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.

Bad ****ing idea.
unless there are no attractive candidates this year to choose from, I don't see any worth going against the grain of the team at the moment.

Someone will develope / surface of the course of the next couple of years if not within this organization. You know Pioli / Clark would concern themselves with the same issue.

This young team has seen considerable change, maybe Romeo is stability if just for the time being.
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Old 12-19-2011, 05:29 PM   #10
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And we haven't even discussed the worst part of hiring Crennel - we'll need a NEW head coach in four, maybe five years MAX when he retires.
If they bring Cassel back and don't get a real QB, we'll need a new HC AND a new GM in TWO.
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Find me a 64-year old interim head coach who went on to win a SB.

If Crennel is our HC and actually wins a SB here it will shock everyone in the NFL. It would be unprecedented.

Sorry for being concerned when 50 years of NFL history says this won't work out.

And FYI, Dick was younger than Romeo when he won it.
Theres a first time for everything.
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Theres a first time for everything.
This is no different than saying we can win a SB with Cassel.
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