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Old 07-07-2010, 12:09 PM  
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Gheyest sport in the world. That pretty much sums it up.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:08 PM   #211
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I'm not quite sure why anyone feels the need to attack it. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Personally, I'd rather watch golf than soccer.
I would rather sit in a chair and punch myself the nuts repeatedly, rather than watching soccer. Hey, but to each their own.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:35 PM   #212
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I'm not quite sure why anyone feels the need to attack it. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

Personally, I'd rather watch golf than soccer.
Because American soccer guy is ripe for the teasing.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:43 PM   #213
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I would rather sit in a chair and punch myself the nuts repeatedly, rather than watching soccer. Hey, but to each their own.
Gee, dude, I have that sentiment toward Baseball, which I'm sure you find a lot more "exciting" than Soccer.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:44 PM   #214
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I would rather sit in a chair and punch myself the nuts repeatedly, rather than watching soccer. Hey, but to each their own.


I can understand that. I hadn't watched a soccer match in years until the WC, and I've only watched a few. I'll probably watch the final, though.
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:47 PM   #215
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Gee, dude, I have that sentiment toward Baseball, which I'm sure you find a lot more "exciting" than Soccer.
How about public stonings? Do you find those exciting?
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Old 07-08-2010, 05:48 PM   #216
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Gee, dude, I have that sentiment toward Baseball, which I'm sure you find a lot more "exciting" than Soccer.
I don't have a long lost love for baseball either and don't even watch the World Series. Like I said, to each their own.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:08 PM   #217
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Not necessarily. Most of the time, yes. But it's still up to the PK taker to hit the shot. That's also why they give each team an equal chance to make the PK.



Probably for the same reason that sudden death in OT in the NFL is stupid and ridiculous.



Can't argue there. It's stupid and I hate it. It needs to be punished far more severely.



I don't necessarily think replay is the answer. I think adding more officials would really help.



Except they hold up a big sign that tells everyone just how much extra time is left. Everyone knows how much extra time there is.
Well, that's sort of missing the point about the shootout... even if the distance to the goal is okay, it's still a stupid gimmick and a ridiculous way to end a single elimination game.

Sudden death in the NFL is stupid and ridiculous because possession is based on a coin flip.... and I don't know if soccer stops the clock before starting OT or they just continue, but if they did, how many times do you really think the team with the first possession just goes down the field and scores? I hope I'm missing something, or else I'd say you don't need to give yourself a colonoscopy just so you can defend soccer.

As far as replay, I know there's the issue of what can be replayed, but shots on goal is a good start... I can't believe they wouldn't have a rule in place on that no-goal off the crossbar... you know, when those two teams played...

Ha, I actually mentioned the time remaining thing because someone in the World Cup thread said "only one person on the field knows the time remaining".... I've noticed the "+3" or whatever, but in one game it seemed like no one knew when the end of the game was, and the guy on tv didn't seem to know.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:21 PM   #218
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Because American soccer guy is ripe for the teasing.
We already know you're a troll who contributes nothing to anything except for reeruned statements custom tailored to get a rise. You're worthless.
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Old 07-08-2010, 06:22 PM   #219
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Ha, I actually mentioned the time remaining thing because someone in the World Cup thread said "only one person on the field knows the time remaining".... I've noticed the "+3" or whatever, but in one game it seemed like no one knew when the end of the game was, and the guy on tv didn't seem to know.
I'm new to the sport, but it seems like the ref (or official or whatever he is called) simply doesn't stop the clock when there has been wasted time in extra time.

One match went to nearly 94 minutes, when only +3 was declared, because there was an injury (flop) in extra time.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:10 PM   #220
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Well, that's sort of missing the point about the shootout... even if the distance to the goal is okay, it's still a stupid gimmick and a ridiculous way to end a single elimination game.
Why? Each team gets the same amount of tries.

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Sudden death in the NFL is stupid and ridiculous because possession is based on a coin flip.... and I don't know if soccer stops the clock before starting OT or they just continue, but if they did, how many times do you really think the team with the first possession just goes down the field and scores? I hope I'm missing something, or else I'd say you don't need to give yourself a colonoscopy just so you can defend soccer.
Because a team usually has a substitution left, so they can make tactical and formation changes in the case of a goal. You could put on an extra attacker and take a defender off. They also used to have sudden-death and it didn't go over so well.

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Ha, I actually mentioned the time remaining thing because someone in the World Cup thread said "only one person on the field knows the time remaining".... I've noticed the "+3" or whatever, but in one game it seemed like no one knew when the end of the game was, and the guy on tv didn't seem to know.
Players can ask the ref how much time is left. And as has been said, if there is time wasting in extra time, the ref adds that in, too.
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Old 07-08-2010, 09:26 PM   #221
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People overestimate the time thing with soccer. If you've ever played, in stoppage time players constantly annoy the ref asking how much time is left. The players always know what's going on. There's a bit of an unwritten rule that you never stop play in the midst of a goal scoring chance, assuming it's within the realms of added time. But it's not like you just hang around waiting for the ref to decide the game is over.
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I'm not quite sure why anyone feels the need to attack it. If you don't like it, don't watch it.
It's like kicking over an ant pile and seeing the ants come running out.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:19 PM   #223
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soccer isn't popular in america. who cares?

americans love NASCAR, twilight, and Lady Gaga, which proves how dumb most americans are.
More people both love soccer and love Lady GaGa than love only one of those.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:27 PM   #224
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I'm by no means a "soccer fan".

I watched some of the World Cup. Sorta got into it momentarily, then realized I was just buying into the hype and legitimately could not give one shit about the sport outside of blatant jingoism.

That being said, I am going to the ManU/Wizards game. My friend's coming back on leave for a couple weeks and is on a soccer kick of sorts, so I'm gonna give it another chance in person. We'll see how it all shakes out.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:35 PM   #225
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Why? Each team gets the same amount of tries.



Because a team usually has a substitution left, so they can make tactical and formation changes in the case of a goal. You could put on an extra attacker and take a defender off. They also used to have sudden-death and it didn't go over so well.



Players can ask the ref how much time is left. And as has been said, if there is time wasting in extra time, the ref adds that in, too.
You don't think ending an NFL playoff game with a field goal kicking contest would be ridiculous (actually, it would be more like an extra point kicking contest)? Or if Kansas and Memphis had a free throw shooting contest to decide the National Championship? Play the game.

Couldn't both teams make those changes, assuming they both had a substitution left? What happened with sudden death (besides the substitution thing)? I'd think unless there were a lot of really quick goals, it would be fine, but I don't really know soccer so I'm curious...

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True, I don't think it would be a huge game changing thing, I just find it silly.
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