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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:55 PM   #9706
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Extra effort catches? They were catches on decent throws. Smith bailed his receivers out -- they dropped too many passes in the final 2 drives, and yet we managed to keep getting first downs. Your take is completely unreasonable.

Also, the offense scored 21 points. YOu can't just erase points because it was a shorter field.
im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:56 PM   #9707
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No one is erasing TD. But Alex doesn't get credit for a TD on a 20-yard drive. The defense gifted the offense that field position.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:58 PM   #9708
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im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...
Avery dropped 2 passes on the Charles TD drive.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:59 PM   #9709
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Jesus...you are worse than Wendler with this bullshit. And it is bullshit.

If you are so ****ing against Smith as our QB, tell me right now who we should have who is better. Right now.

Tell me who we are going to draft or pick up in free agency for the 2014 season who is better. Do it. Do it now.

We've all been there, done that. But I'll go there again. Give me a Jason Campbell type plus whatever player the Chiefs could have taken in the 2nd round this year, plus whatever player they could draft in the 2nd round next year (or whatever player they could move up for in round 1/etc).

Give me Jay Cutler in FA if the Bears cut him loose.

But I know what's going to happen. We can already see it happening. The Chiefs are going to spend big (Money/Picks) to improve the OL, WR and TE spots.

And then a lot of Chiefs fans are going to be surprised again when it still isn't enough for Alex Smith to get it done.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #9710
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Avery dropped 2 passes on the Charles TD drive.
and still yet most of the drops happened prior to those drives.


I would be more worried about the passes dropped on drives we DONT score on. they matter more.

I would guarantee most sane people would agree that the Jenkins/fasano drop drive was a worse time for them to happen.

they actually killed the drive.
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Heh, Jason Campbell and jay Cutler. Clearly elite QBs.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:01 PM   #9712
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No one is erasing TD. But Alex doesn't get credit for a TD on a 20-yard drive. The defense gifted the offense that field position.
No you are incorrect, Dude.

He absolutely gets credit, just maybe not in your little world of make believe.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:02 PM   #9713
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im pretty sure most drops happened before the last two drives...
Avery dropped two in the final two drives. One forced a 3rd and 14 bailed out an excellent throw and catch to Jenkins. The other was on the goal line where Avery dropped another pass and was bailed out by McCluster reaching for 5 yards and getting a facemask penalty.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:02 PM   #9714
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No you are incorrect, Dude.

He absolutely gets credit, just maybe not in your little world of make believe.
the offense still has to get in the endzone. gotta get some credit for that
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #9715
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and still yet most of the drops happened prior to those drives.


I would be more worried about the passes dropped on drives we DONT score on. they matter more.

I would guarantee most sane people would agree that the Jenkins/fasano drop drive was a worse time for them to happen.

they actually killed the drive.
I am just talking about duncan's claim that receivers were bailing Smith out. That is a pretty ridiculous claim.
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Old 12-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #9716
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Avery dropped two in the final two drives. One forced a 3rd and 14 bailed out an excellent throw and catch to Jenkins. The other was on the goal line where Avery dropped another pass and was bailed out by McCluster reaching for 5 yards and getting a facemask penalty.
I didn't dispute that. and it still doesn't make me wrong.

more, and more impactful drops happened prior to those drives
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Extra effort catches? They were catches on decent throws. Smith bailed his receivers out -- they dropped too many passes in the final 2 drives, and yet we managed to keep getting first downs. Your take is completely unreasonable.

Also, the offense scored 21 points. YOu can't just erase points because it was a shorter field.
I'm not erasing points. I just look at a touchdown scored when starting from the opponents' 20 after a turnover a little differently than a touchdown scored when starting from your own 20.

Glad they converted it into 7.

I'm talking about McCluster making a diving catch, Bowe a nice leaping catch, etc. Think Jenkins also had a pretty tough catch on that drive, in addition to the one off of his shoelaces on third down.
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We've all been there, done that. But I'll go there again. Give me a Jason Campbell type plus whatever player the Chiefs could have taken in the 2nd round this year, plus whatever player they could draft in the 2nd round next year (or whatever player they could move up for in round 1/etc).

Give me Jay Cutler in FA if the Bears cut him loose.

But I know what's going to happen. We can already see it happening. The Chiefs are going to spend big (Money/Picks) to improve the OL, WR and TE spots.

And then a lot of Chiefs fans are going to be surprised again when it still isn't enough for Alex Smith to get it done.
Sorry, but if the last 2 games are any indicator of future play that's what they absolutely should do.
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the offense still has to get in the endzone. gotta get some credit for that
Nah, scoring is easy. Everyone knows that.
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I am just talking about duncan's claim that receivers were bailing Smith out. That is a pretty ridiculous claim.
would say that there were maybe two times that happened, BUT that happens with every qb.


EDIT: I was wrong, Duncan listed 4 balls that weren't exactly accurate. he's right
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