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**HemiEd** · 01:34 PM

This happened on the T-100 also.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/inve...50/detail.html

Team 5 Discovers More Rusted-Out Frames On Toyotas
Owners Said Trucks Can't Be Repaired Or Resold
POSTED: 10:47 am EDT April 26, 2009
UPDATED: 8:24 am EDT April 27, 2009

BOSTON -- Toyota is hearing from truck owners about frames so badly rusted they can't be repaired nor replaced.

It's a problem Team 5 Investigates first uncovered last year with Tacomas. And now it appears to involve larger model Tundras as well.

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"The frame is cracked," said Tim Gatzke, owner of a 2000 Toyota Tundra. "And down in the back here, the leaf springs on this side are so corroded that they're broken."

Tim Gatzke

He said the frame on his truck is being eaten away by rust. Driven only 89,000 miles, it no longer holds power steering fluid.

"In order to fix it, you need a power steering rack," Gatzke said. "But the corrosion is so bad, there is nothing for it to get welded back onto the frame."

Watch Report

Gatzke has pretty much stopped driving his truck.

Bob Malone

"It's aggressive corrosion that essentially makes the truck unsafe," he said. "I mean, the power steering rack at 70 mph. --- if that were to let go, that could be a really bad accident."

Bob Malone is another Tundra owner with the same complaint.

"You can see the frame rail is just orange with rust," he said.

Malone's 2000 Tundra -- driven just 72,000 -- essentially fell apart going through the car wash.

"I could literally just hear the metal chips flying off," he said, holding a rusted sheet in his hand. "This is the biggest piece I found out of the pile."

Tim Gatzke

Team 5 Investigates discovered more than two dozen complaints about 2000 and 2001 Tundras filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Drivers wrote, "Metal shearing off in large sheets"; "The rot caused the frame to break in half.".... (and) "Poked my finger right through the cross member."

Frustrated Tundra owners told NHTSA: "My truck is undriveable and unfixable." ... "It will not pass the next inspection." ... (and) "I cannot drive my car or even sell it as is."

"What needs to happen is, Toyota needs to recall these trucks," said Sean Kane, a national safety expert who believes the rust problem with older Tundras may be the same one plaguing more than 800,000 Tacoma trucks built between 1995 and 2000. As Team 5 Investigates first reported last year, those model years did not have adequate corrosion protection, causing the frames to disintegrate from rust.

Bob Malone

Toyota agreed --- and offered buyback deals for one-and-a-half times the vehicle's Blue Book value.

"Toyota really does need to step up here and extend that warranty beyond the vehicles that they've already covered to include any vehicles of theirs that has this kind of problem," Kane said.

In a written statement, Toyota told Team 5 Investigates that they've had only a small number of complaints and are investigating each one. They said, "using the information obtained from the Tacoma, we pro-actively investigate other vehicles of similar design and production elements." The company added, it "takes great pride in the durability and quality of our products."

Toyota wouldn't disclose how many rusted Tundras they've heard about or what they're doing for the owners.

"I'm pretty incensed," Malone said. "If you call them up, they just ignore you and hope you'll go away. I don't know what it's going to take."

**Bugeater** · 11-30-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kepp

Do Tacoma frames have these problems? (sorry, didn't read the whole thread)

Yeah, Toyota actually bought back some of them because they were so bad. Obviously they are trying to avoid having to do the same with these.

Garcia Bronco · 11-30-2009, 09:19 AM

The only reason not to get a Toyota truck is if you have a 5th wheel. I dare you to find a Tacoma pulling a 5th wheel.

**HemiEd** · 11-30-2009, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

The only reason not to get a Toyota truck is if you have a 5th wheel. I dare you to find a Tacoma pulling a 5th wheel.

That is an interesting take. Did you read the article that Bugeater posted?

**Iowanian** · 11-30-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, just because people don't want a car that's worth 25 percent less the minute they drive it off the lot, they're idjits. I wish I could seriously consider buying an american car, but let's face the facts. Hondas and Toyotas on average last longer, hold their value better, and perform better over the life of the vehicle than any american car. My 91 accord still has the original freon in it, for pete's sake. The saddest part of all of this is it doesn't have to be this way. There isn't anything magical about the way those companies operate. Detroits dollars per pound method of designing a car isn't and hasn't been working for quite some time.

Brock · 11-30-2009, 11:56 AM

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05-04-2009, 01:06 PM
HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $3290564	Toyota Tundras frames rusting, guess they need to be made from real steel. This happened on the T-100 also. http://www.thebostonchannel.com/inve...50/detail.html Team 5 Discovers More Rusted-Out Frames On Toyotas Owners Said Trucks Can't Be Repaired Or Resold POSTED: 10:47 am EDT April 26, 2009 UPDATED: 8:24 am EDT April 27, 2009 BOSTON -- Toyota is hearing from truck owners about frames so badly rusted they can't be repaired nor replaced. It's a problem Team 5 Investigates first uncovered last year with Tacomas. And now it appears to involve larger model Tundras as well. Click To Comment \| See A Slideshow Of Trucks "The frame is cracked," said Tim Gatzke, owner of a 2000 Toyota Tundra. "And down in the back here, the leaf springs on this side are so corroded that they're broken." Tim Gatzke He said the frame on his truck is being eaten away by rust. Driven only 89,000 miles, it no longer holds power steering fluid. "In order to fix it, you need a power steering rack," Gatzke said. "But the corrosion is so bad, there is nothing for it to get welded back onto the frame." Watch Report Gatzke has pretty much stopped driving his truck. Bob Malone "It's aggressive corrosion that essentially makes the truck unsafe," he said. "I mean, the power steering rack at 70 mph. --- if that were to let go, that could be a really bad accident." Bob Malone is another Tundra owner with the same complaint. "You can see the frame rail is just orange with rust," he said. Malone's 2000 Tundra -- driven just 72,000 -- essentially fell apart going through the car wash. "I could literally just hear the metal chips flying off," he said, holding a rusted sheet in his hand. "This is the biggest piece I found out of the pile." Tim Gatzke Team 5 Investigates discovered more than two dozen complaints about 2000 and 2001 Tundras filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Drivers wrote, "Metal shearing off in large sheets"; "The rot caused the frame to break in half.".... (and) "Poked my finger right through the cross member." Frustrated Tundra owners told NHTSA: "My truck is undriveable and unfixable." ... "It will not pass the next inspection." ... (and) "I cannot drive my car or even sell it as is." "What needs to happen is, Toyota needs to recall these trucks," said Sean Kane, a national safety expert who believes the rust problem with older Tundras may be the same one plaguing more than 800,000 Tacoma trucks built between 1995 and 2000. As Team 5 Investigates first reported last year, those model years did not have adequate corrosion protection, causing the frames to disintegrate from rust. Bob Malone Toyota agreed --- and offered buyback deals for one-and-a-half times the vehicle's Blue Book value. "Toyota really does need to step up here and extend that warranty beyond the vehicles that they've already covered to include any vehicles of theirs that has this kind of problem," Kane said. In a written statement, Toyota told Team 5 Investigates that they've had only a small number of complaints and are investigating each one. They said, "using the information obtained from the Tacoma, we pro-actively investigate other vehicles of similar design and production elements." The company added, it "takes great pride in the durability and quality of our products." Toyota wouldn't disclose how many rusted Tundras they've heard about or what they're doing for the owners. "I'm pretty incensed," Malone said. "If you call them up, they just ignore you and hope you'll go away. I don't know what it's going to take." Last edited by HemiEd; 05-04-2009 at 01:34 PM..
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