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Old 04-15-2022, 09:08 AM   Topic Starter
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Deebo wants $25m/year. Is the WR market broken?
I read this and was talking about this with a friend yesterday.

I entered this offseason finding a way to stomach $20m/year for Tyreek. When the rumblings started to suggest $25m/year, I could barely contain myself. The strain that will put on our cap -- or any team's cap -- to pay that much for a player who can't even make his own plays without a QB getting the ball to him. That is hard to fathom.

$30m/year, though? There's no team with a competent QB in the league that will be able to pay that.

With Deebo set to ask for 25/year, that does suggest that the league could be heading to a place where elite WRs and QBs simply cannot be on the same team anymore. That your best hope is for a WR or a QB who immediately becomes elite on their rookie contract, or in the case of the stupid Bengals, one of each.

Because with Derek Carr going $40m/year, that means you're looking at $60-80m a year being tied up in two players.

How do we see this playing out over the next five years? Is there a WR bubble that's about to burst?
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:10 AM   #2
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Hill is only getting $23 million a year. /King
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:15 AM   #3
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Hill is only getting $23 million a year. /King
Hill is getting $24.5M for 4 years, assuming the 4th year on his extension isn't picked up. Just to clarify.
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:21 AM   #4
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No matter what the cap is the next few years, the WR market is definitely one I'd stay out of for a while. If I'm Veach I'd be trying to take one in each of the first two rounds, even if you're reaching. Let them grow with Mahomes under cheap rookie deals.

It's just too easy to take a game breaking WR out of a game, as we saw many times with Tyreek. Sure, they have to double and triple cover them, but if you have nobody else that can get open it's a plan that works. Much better to have four #2 caliber guys than a #1 and three scabs like we've been doing.
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Old 04-15-2022, 10:51 AM   #5
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Hill is getting $24.5M for 4 years, assuming the 4th year on his extension isn't picked up. Just to clarify.

You committed to not posting on CP any longer and were going to pay $1000 to Stevie if you did. Did you do that?
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Old 04-15-2022, 04:38 PM   #6
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You committed to not posting on CP any longer and were going to pay $1000 to Stevie if you did. Did you do that?
Not posting in DC any longer. And I haven't. Lol at just now noticing I've been posting in the Lounge.
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:10 AM   #7
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The cap is skyrocketing soon. This is what is happening with that. Shouldn't be a surprise.
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I was right about Deebo, just wanted to say that.
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Old 04-15-2022, 09:33 AM   #9
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I was right about Deebo, just wanted to say that.
We don't talk about Deebo

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Old 04-15-2022, 09:57 AM   #10
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I was right about Deebo, just wanted to say that.
He is the entire San Fran offense. An absolute beast.

Who knows how long his body will hold up, though.
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Old 04-15-2022, 11:34 AM   #11
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He is the entire San Fran offense. An absolute beast.

Who knows how long his body will hold up, though.
I always thought that the folks that say Deebo should have had more running plays against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl have no idea how taxing those plays are on a player.

Especially, when Deebo is involved in some serious collisions the more he gets the ball.

Tyreek Hill has incredible stamina for a player with elite speed.

It would be interesting to see the data readouts on the trackers, but my guess is that Tyreek has a lot more time at 80% effort and above during a full game than Deebo Samuel does.
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In 5 years Patrick is going be one of the lowest paid quarterbacks per year..

And by Raiders standards that Derek Carr is the third highest played quarterback that makes him the 3rd best quarterback.. So if Patrick is one of the lowest paid quarterbacks that must mean he sucks in 5 years.
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I always thought that the folks that say Deebo should have had more running plays against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl have no idea how taxing those plays are on a player.

Especially, when Deebo is involved in some serious collisions the more he gets the ball.

Tyreek Hill has incredible stamina for a player with elite speed.

It would be interesting to see the data readouts on the trackers, but my guess is that Tyreek has a lot more time at 80% effort and above during a full game than Deebo Samuel does.
He takes some major shots when he lines up at RB.

It has to be a concern.
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I'm sure the NFLPA would never allow it, but I'm curious how a positional salary cap might work, or at least a separate cap number for QBs.
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I'm sure the NFLPA would never allow it, but I'm curious how a positional salary cap might work, or at least a separate cap number for QBs.
Bad idea.

The whole point of the salary cap is to balance the league and keep top tier teams from keeping top talent locked up.

Let the team decided where to spend the money. A positional cap either doesn't really change things, or it tends to create a loop hole that favors wealthy owners.

And then you add needless complications with the position. What position does Deebo play?

How about that wanna be QB in New Orleans?
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