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Old 03-11-2013, 12:45 PM   #1
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You won't get charged more for the job, but the per hour charge will be higher.


Experienced guy = less time for same price

Typically that is how it ends up.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:50 PM   #2
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You won't get charged more for the job, but the per hour charge will be higher.


Experienced guy = less time for same price

Typically that is how it ends up.
Even if both are working at the same shop? I would guess that the more experienced tech gets the more difficult jobs.

Just for argument's sake.

Hootie's mirror is a 2 hour job. A newer guy gets this assignment. Is there still the 2.4 hour quote or based on simplicity, does it get a 2 hour quote?

Say my transmission is an 8 hour job. An experienced guy gets that assignment. Does the labor hour quote get the added .4 based on having to pay that tech more?


**Nevermind** It got answered as I was posting this**
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:56 PM   #3
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Even if both are working at the same shop? I would guess that the more experienced tech gets the more difficult jobs.

Just for argument's sake.

Hootie's mirror is a 2 hour job. A newer guy gets this assignment. Is there still the 2.4 hour quote or based on simplicity, does it get a 2 hour quote?

Say my transmission is an 8 hour job. An experienced guy gets that assignment. Does the labor hour quote get the added .4 based on having to pay that tech more?
I will let the mechanics answer the question about labor.


On flooring, I charge by the foot, just as a mechanic charges for "labor hour". I get the work done 2-3 times faster than a normal person because I have experience and great equipment.

A professional shouldn't get paid less because they are more efficient at doing the job.



Simply put, not all hours are equal.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:49 PM   #4
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:51 PM   #5
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:52 PM   #6
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
Right, but you don't get to bill for the book hours times 120% just because you feel like it.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:54 PM   #7
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Right, but you don't get to bill for the book hours times 120% just because you feel like it.
Yeah, that would be unethical. Rates shouldn't be set capriciously.
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Old 03-11-2013, 12:52 PM   #8
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
then the book should be updated and allow the business to get a few more suckers...er I mean customers in the repair shop
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:06 PM   #9
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
Correct, but I don't believe anyone is arguing they should "catch a break".
What is being argued is that if I have a job that the book says should take 8 hours, is it ethical for Extorter to charge for 10. He may be able to get it done in 4, that's irrelevant. The book (be it Chilton's, AllData, or Mitchell) calls for 8.

So charging that extra 10-25% that he claimed is outright theft.
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Correct, but I don't believe anyone is arguing they should "catch a break".
What is being argued is that if I have a job that the book says should take 8 hours, is it ethical for Extorter to charge for 10. He may be able to get it done in 4, that's irrelevant. The book (be it Chilton's, AllData, or Mitchell) calls for 8.

So charging that extra 10-25% that he claimed is outright theft.
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Correct, but I don't believe anyone is arguing they should "catch a break".
What is being argued is that if I have a job that the book says should take 8 hours, is it ethical for Extorter to charge for 10. He may be able to get it done in 4, that's irrelevant. The book (be it Chilton's, AllData, or Mitchell) calls for 8.

So charging that extra 10-25% that he claimed is outright theft.
EXACTLY this.
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Mechanics don't punch a clock in and out on a job. From my understanding, most repairs have a "set time" in the books for how long they should take. If the mechanics finish early, customers aren't catching a break on cost.
this is true, exorter is saying he MARKS UP THE BOOK LABOR TIMES.

so by the book it says the job pays 2.0 hours.


he bills the customer for 2.2 hours.


that is actually unethical
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this is true, exorter is saying he MARKS UP THE BOOK LABOR TIMES.

so by the book it says the job pays 2.0 hours.


he bills the customer for 2.2 hours.


that is actually unethical
no, he's never said that.

he said he QUOTES the customer 2.2 hours, and then bills them 2.2 hours. How is that unethical?
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Exoter: Let us know the name of your shop if you're so proud of your business practices.
I don't own or run a shop anymore, as you know full well before asking the question. My partner and I both sold out of that shop to take higher paying jobs at dealerships, spending way less hours for more money.

You knew that before you asked the question, but you believe that since I no longer own a business, that I am somehow discredited from discussion, right?

Or you attempt to use the fact that I no longer own the business, as a reason to attack me, slandering me along the way.

right? Thought so. As predictable as ever.
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