Where we are, roster-wise: volume 2014.

[Direckshun]

Done this every year for about five years now. Last year we had this thread stickied.

It's always nice to just see the roster laid out, and hash out depth charts as the offseason progresses. Players will climb and fall on this depth chart, and of course players will be added and removed.

QB
Alex Smith
Chase Daniel
Tyler Bray
Aaron Murray

RB
Jamaal Charles
Knile Davis
De'Anthony Thomas
Joe McKnight
Cyrus Gray
Charcandrick West

FB
Anthony Sherman
Jordan Campbell
James Baker

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Donnie Avery
A.J. Jenkins
Junior Hemingway
Weston Dressler
Frankie Hammond, Jr.
Jerrell Jackson
Darryl Surgent
Fred Williams
Kyle Williams
Albert Wilson
Deon Anthony

TE
Anthony Fasano
Travis Kelce
Sean McGrath
Demetrius Harris
Richard Gordon

OT
Eric Fisher
Donald Stephenson
J'Marcus Webb
Ryan McKee
Otis Hudson

OG
Jeff Allen
Jeffrey Linkenbach
Rishaw Johnson
Zach Fulton
Laurent Duvarney-Tardif
Rokevious Watkins
Ricky Henry

C
Rodney Hudson
Eric Kush
Ben Gottschalk

NT
Dontari Poe
Kyle Love
Jaye Howard
Dominique Hamilton
Chas Alecxih
Corey Grissom

DE
Mike DeVito
Vance Walker
Allen Bailey
Mike Catapano
Jermelle Cudjo

OLB
Justin Houston
Tamba Hali
Dee Ford
Frank Zombo
Dezman Moses
Josh Martin

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Joe Mays
Nico Johnson
James-Michael Johnson
Ben Johnson
Deron Furr
Alonzo Highsmith

CB
Brandon Flowers
Sean Smith
Marcus Cooper
Phillip Gaines
Chris Owens
Kevin Rutland
Vernon Kearney
David Van Dyke
DeMarcus Van Dyke
Justin Rogers

S
Eric Berry
Sanders Commings
Husain Abdullah
Ron Parker
Daniel Sorensen
Jerron McMillian
Malcolm Bronson

K
Ryan Succop
Cairo Santos

P
Dustin Colquitt

LS
Thomas Gafford

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Stahp.

KC absolutely has to carry a third nose if they only keep 4 WRs.

Surely they aren't so oblivious to see that Poe was worn the **** down by season's end. Maybe Powe was a shitbag behind closed doors and that's why he was never put on the field to spell Dontari.. But Sutton et al has to realize they need a third string NT to keep Poe fresh and safeguard against any injuries or shit play from the DEs.

We would get the same effect by keeping two NTs in Poe and Howard/Grissom. Again, there is no way the Chiefs activate 3 NTs on gameday. If you keep a 3rd guy it's because he shows a lot of promise and is worth keeping around on the roster for next year. Personally, I don't find Grissom to be that guy, and certainly not Howard, who has already had that chance last year.

MAYBE the Chiefs keep Howard around as a 5th DE and emergency NT. Even then, he still has to be activated on gameday in order for us to use him, and I really doubt the Chiefs are going to activate that much fat at the expense of speed and agility on special teams. That and Howard has to have developed the skills and ability to play the 5-technique. That remains to be seen. He either has it or he doesn't.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Well then stop being so cryptic.

Reid vis a vis Alex displayed trust in both Junior and AJ in the season - Hemingway more so in the early part of the season and AJ in the latter- that it doesn't seem they'd be so quick to write them off entirely.

How they approached the draft reinforces this view to me, IMO.

Odds are both of them are JAGs... but AJ was a first rounder and Hemingway performed similarly to Dexter in the combine.

Hence why I think there's something that a lot of people don't consider when looking at the roster.. I think the FO and coaches see something in the two receivers that fans don't.

Whether that's going to work out or not is up for debate, however.

How am I being cryptic?

We here at CP are generally giving up on him too soon.

The 9ers gave up on him too soon.

Those are facts.
Nothing cryptic about them.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by milkman

How am I being cryptic?

We here at CP are generally giving up on him too soon.

The 9ers gave up on him too soon.

Those are facts.
Nothing cryptic about them.

Eh, fine. I misinterpreted what you were saying then.

I'll hold to the fact that I think Reid/Dorsey saw something with the current receiving staff that allowed them not to upgrade at the position the way most posters here and pundits watching the NFL thought they would.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by scott free

Its pretty easy to slam my opinion at the moment, but mark this down... AJ Jenkins will jack people UP in 2014.

Receivers take time time to develop, anyone who's been following pro football for more than one season knows this, this guy was rated a legit #1 and taken there, Harbaugh gave up after 5 minutes... chances are, under the right coaching, this guy blooms.

He will be our Harper/Kennison to Bowes Michael Irvin, bet me on it, call your bet... Reid isn't going to give up on him so fast, he's going to coach him up and max out that first round talent, bet me...

I'll give you that without shitting on it, only because AJ Jenkins has shown he can run around on an NFL field and occasionally play his position and catch a football when given an opportunity. Too bad you can't say the same about anyone after Derrick Johnson at ILB.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Where do you think the team is giving up on Jenkins?

If we're buying into the notion that the team has done nothing this offseason but address holes on the roster that will appear in the next offseason or two, then you have to think Jenkins is around to replace Avery...

I think AJ is destined to play the slot. He was groomed to take over for McClusters production. There is 50 balls and about 500 yards up for grabs so someone has to take it.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I think AJ is destined to play the slot. He was groomed to take over for McClusters production. There is 50 balls and about 500 yards up for grabs so someone has to take it.

Hmm.. AJ's faster, can jumper higher and is taller (clearly) than Dex. Meanwhile, Junior had the same broad jump distance as AJ and had one more rep on the bench than Dex did....

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I think AJ is destined to play the slot. He was groomed to take over for McClusters production. There is 50 balls and about 500 yards up for grabs so someone has to take it.

He was groomed to take over for Avery.. Jenkins pretty much never played slot last season. When he's on the field Bowe moves inside for the most part and when Avery went down last season with the shoulder it was Jenkins who lined up at X.

[SAUTO]

Dat is slot imo
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[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

But you DID see it.

Last six weeks of last year.
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That's a misleading 6 weeks, though.

7 of the 28 against Denver came on a kickoff return and another 7 came after an INT and return set up the Chiefs at the Denver 22.

Then it was the Redskins (#30) on defense

Followed by the Raiders (#29) on defense

Then only 7 points against a top 10 (#9) Colts defense

Then only 24 points in an OT loss to the Chargers, with 7 of them coming of an INT that allowed a drive to start at the Chargers 23 yard line.


The first Chargers game was probably the team's offensive high point, scoring well against a #11 scoring defense. Outside of that, the offense lit up two terrible defenses and fared average to poor against the better defenses in that stretch.

Not terrible, certainly, but the offense wasn't exactly kicking ass and taking names.

[SAUTO]

And then 44 against that same Colts d.
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[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'll give you that without shitting on it, only because AJ Jenkins has shown he can run around on an NFL field and occasionally play his position and catch a football when given an opportunity. Too bad you can't say the same about anyone after Derrick Johnson at ILB.

I will admit that my enthusiasm is based on a very narrow bit of data, but the guy is just too young and has flashed too well here to throw away.

And of course I've said again and again and will stand by it, this guy not only looks like Kennison when he's running, but his arm movements and everything else about him looks like EK in the act of catching a pass... a crazy fast track guy learning to reach out for the ball.

I've belabored that comparison lately, but only because I see it for what it is. Not just using EK as a comparison because he's what I know best, but its just that this guy is JUST LIKE him... the gangly speedster who needed a team that WANTS him to get comfortable in the NFL, they're sooo similar its silly.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

But you DID see it.

Last six weeks of last year.
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well somebody didn't actually read the post

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

well somebody didn't actually read the post

I read it. I was just being an asshole because you ran off faxy
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[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

If our backups last year don't become studs we are screwed.

If last year's ER squad don't stay healthy and contribute we are screwed.


roll those dice


This is the type of offseason that gets a GM fired, or at least should. imo.

Your and idiot !

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm not sure what's uglier. Carrying 12 wideouts or the 12 we're carrying.