Poop As the Pioli turns: three way trade w/ Donks & 'Skins? - Page 9

Direckshun · 03-17-2009, 09:03 PM

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Do Skins want Cutler?

By John Keim
Examiner Staff Writer 3/18/09

The Redskins reportedly have entered talks about a three-way trade to acquire Jay Cutler and jettison Jason Campbell.

The Redskins have serious interest in Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, an NFL source said Tuesday, and have entered talks about a possible three-way deal to acquire him.

Two NFL sources confirmed the possibility of a three-way trade, with Kansas City being mentioned by one source as a possibility.

The Redskins, through a team spokesman, denied interest in Cutler. However, a league source was adamant that Washington has shown interest.

“They’re trying to do something,” one NFL source said of the Redskins.

“Whether or not it materializes is another matter, but [Redskins owner Dan Snyder] is on this hard. They don’t trust Jason Campbell.”

Cutler is involved in a dispute with Denver after the Broncos had discussions about trading him to New England for quarterback Matt Cassel.

First-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels met with Culter this past weekend. Afterward, Cutler said he could not trust McDaniels and wanted to be traded.

Denver has said they don’t want to trade Cutler for draft picks, meaning the Redskins or the third team would have to surrender at least one top player. The Redskins could also end up with Denver tight end Tony Scheffler, who is represented by the same agent as Culter — Bus Cook.

Fueling the speculation is the close relationship between former Denver coach Mike Shanahan and Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato. Shanahan, who traded several times with Cerrato while with Denver, could provide the endorsement needed for Cutler.

Also, after the season Cerrato gave Campbell a tepid endorsement as Washington’s quarterback of the future. Campbell is entering the last year of his contract and the Redskins have not had discussions about extending his deal.

Redskins coach Jim Zorn has praised Campbell publicly this offseason.
The strong-armed Cutler, 25, made the Pro Bowl this past season after throwing 25 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. In three seasons he’s tossed 54 touchdowns and 37 interceptions. In 16 games this past season, Campbell threw 13 touchdowns and six interceptions.

Cutler signed a six-year, $48-million contract in 2006. Campbell has a base salary of $2.5 million this season with a cap number of $7.5 million.

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

um ... i think what started all your donk problems in the first place is that your Head Coach prefers Matt "low-grade" Cassel over Cutler.

See message #99.

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You don't really believe that Denver nixed that proposal, do you?

Yes. Absolutely.

Because the alternative has Belichick turning down a better offer to help out the Chiefs at the expense of his own team and that's ludicrous.

Mr. Krab · 03-18-2009, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

See message #99.

It makes no sense. If your Head Coach didn't value Cassel higher than Cutler he NEVER would of been talking about a trade in the first place and Cutler would of never gotten his man-gina hurt.

Mr. Krab · 03-18-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Yes. Absolutely.

Because the alternative has Belichick turning down a better offer to help out the Chiefs at the expense of his own team and that's ludicrous.

Unless he had already agreed to the trade deal with Kansas City.

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

It makes no sense. If your Head Coach didn't value Cassel higher than Cutler he NEVER would of been talking about a trade in the first place and Cutler would of never gotten his man-gina hurt.

"Cassel PLUS pick" - that's what he was considering.

Say that again - roll it around in your mind. "Cassel PLUS pick."

Coogs · 03-18-2009, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

It makes no sense. If your Head Coach didn't value Cassel higher than Cutler he NEVER would of been talking about a trade in the first place and Cutler would of never gotten his man-gina hurt.

This!

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Unless he had already agreed to the trade deal with Kansas City.

Umm...

If that were the case, Belichick would have said so THE FIRST TIME. At least THREE separate proposals were made according to the sources (one involving Detroit, two separate ones involving Tampa bay).

The obvious conclusion is that these proposals didn't get as far as New England to tamp them down.

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Unless he had already agreed to the trade deal with Kansas City.

Given how the situation has continued to spiral out of control in Denver, I think this is looking like the more logical explanation.

Edit: I'm not sure what orange is referring to with the "first BB comments."

Coogs · 03-18-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

It makes no sense. If your Head Coach didn't value Cassel higher than Cutler he NEVER would of been talking about a trade in the first place and Cutler would of never gotten his man-gina hurt.

And since this is a fact, maybe I should revise the deal.

Cutler to the Lions for #20 and #33 (which is essentially 2 firsts)
Cassel to the Broncos for #12 and #48

There! That sounds better.

Mr. Krab · 03-18-2009, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

"Cassel PLUS pick" - that's what he was considering.

Say that again - roll it around in your mind. "Cassel PLUS pick."

So according to you, your Head Coach was preparing to downgrade at the most important position on the team for an extra draft pick?

That goes completely against what everyone else in the league is doing.

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2009, 05:33 PM

Donkey fans, let this roll off your tongue, la la la la:

Your coach loves, lo lo lo loves, our quarterback.

Mr. Krab · 03-18-2009, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

And since this is a fact, maybe I should revise the deal.

Cutler to the Lions for #20 and #33 (which is essentially 2 firsts)
Cassel to the Broncos for #12 and #48

There! That sounds better.

I like the way you think!

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Edit: I'm not sure what orange is referring to with the "first BB comments."

I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Are you asking about one of my posts on a different thread?

**DeezNutz** · 03-18-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orange

Umm...

If that were the case, Belichick would have said so THE FIRST TIME. At least THREE separate proposals were made according to the sources (one involving Detroit, two separate ones involving Tampa bay).

The obvious conclusion is that these proposals didn't get as far as New England to tamp them down.

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange

I'm not sure what you're referring to here. Are you asking about one of my posts on a different thread?

.

orange · 03-18-2009, 05:41 PM

Okay. Read that again. Answer is right there.

IF Detroit+Denver went to Belichick and said "we want to trade for Cassel" AND IF Belichick said "Cassel is gone..."

THEN there would have been NO reason for Denver to go back with Tampa Bay even ONE time, let alone TWO.

Got it?

03-17-2009, 09:03 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4343447	As the Pioli turns: three way trade w/ Donks & 'Skins? http://www.dcexaminer.com/sports/Do-...-41399007.html Do Skins want Cutler? By John Keim Examiner Staff Writer 3/18/09 The Redskins reportedly have entered talks about a three-way trade to acquire Jay Cutler and jettison Jason Campbell. The Redskins have serious interest in Denver quarterback Jay Cutler, an NFL source said Tuesday, and have entered talks about a possible three-way deal to acquire him. Two NFL sources confirmed the possibility of a three-way trade, with Kansas City being mentioned by one source as a possibility. The Redskins, through a team spokesman, denied interest in Cutler. However, a league source was adamant that Washington has shown interest. “They’re trying to do something,” one NFL source said of the Redskins. “Whether or not it materializes is another matter, but [Redskins owner Dan Snyder] is on this hard. They don’t trust Jason Campbell.” Cutler is involved in a dispute with Denver after the Broncos had discussions about trading him to New England for quarterback Matt Cassel. First-year Broncos coach Josh McDaniels met with Culter this past weekend. Afterward, Cutler said he could not trust McDaniels and wanted to be traded. Denver has said they don’t want to trade Cutler for draft picks, meaning the Redskins or the third team would have to surrender at least one top player. The Redskins could also end up with Denver tight end Tony Scheffler, who is represented by the same agent as Culter — Bus Cook. Fueling the speculation is the close relationship between former Denver coach Mike Shanahan and Redskins executive vice president Vinny Cerrato. Shanahan, who traded several times with Cerrato while with Denver, could provide the endorsement needed for Cutler. Also, after the season Cerrato gave Campbell a tepid endorsement as Washington’s quarterback of the future. Campbell is entering the last year of his contract and the Redskins have not had discussions about extending his deal. Redskins coach Jim Zorn has praised Campbell publicly this offseason. The strong-armed Cutler, 25, made the Pro Bowl this past season after throwing 25 touchdowns and 18 interceptions. In three seasons he’s tossed 54 touchdowns and 37 interceptions. In 16 games this past season, Campbell threw 13 touchdowns and six interceptions. Cutler signed a six-year, $48-million contract in 2006. Campbell has a base salary of $2.5 million this season with a cap number of $7.5 million.
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03-18-2009, 05:41 PM	#135
orange MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Denver, CO Casino cash: $10004900	Okay. Read that again. Answer is right there. IF Detroit+Denver went to Belichick and said "we want to trade for Cassel" AND IF Belichick said "Cassel is gone..." THEN there would have been NO reason for Denver to go back with Tampa Bay even ONE time, let alone TWO. Got it?
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