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Old 07-23-2013, 12:21 AM   #1
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Old 07-23-2013, 08:17 AM   #2
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Maybe after our next retread quarterback that follows Alex Smith fails we end up drafting the quarterback of generation in the 2020's?

I think 2021 is the year we need to get our guy from the draft surely that draft class will produce good enough ones like Andrew Luck & RGIII or Wilson?
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Old 07-23-2013, 10:00 AM   #3
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Old 07-23-2013, 01:09 PM   #4
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It's not unusual for a QB class to get turned upside down on its ****ing head compared to preseason projections. Last year we were looking at some potentially intriguing talents in Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones (everybody had him highly ranked at this point last year), and Aaron Murray. EJ Manuel and Geno Smith were considered middle-round development guys not even in the same league as the top guys mentioned.

I see this year shaping out much the same way. The focus in general is on the names people have been talking about for one or two years like McCarron, Murray, Bridgewater, and Boyd. I think Bridgewater will be the top QB taken, and McCarron may wind up going in the first round. Other than that, it's just so rare to look at a QB in the preseason and say, "He could be a top guy in the class if he has a phenomenal year." No ****ing shit, Sherlock. If any QB has a phenomenal year, he is going to get looks from teams. The fact that the particular QB you're talking about hasn't shown you anything yet and you're waiting to see it in his senior season just might tell you that the QB isn't capable of doing it.

There are just too many of those kinds of guys in this year's class. Murray is maxed out and short. Boyd has yet to be consistently good over the entire course of a college season. Bridgewater will impress due to his size, and as long as McCarron doesn't ****ing suck, I think he'll be looked at by a desperate enough team (like the Chiefs for instance) as a possible option. QBs like Morris, Fales, and Mettenberger will be the ones who sneak into the top QB picture midway through the season and "surprise" people.
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Old 07-23-2013, 05:42 PM   #5
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It's not unusual for a QB class to get turned upside down on its ****ing head compared to preseason projections. Last year we were looking at some potentially intriguing talents in Matt Barkley, Tyler Wilson, Tyler Bray, Landry Jones (everybody had him highly ranked at this point last year), and Aaron Murray. EJ Manuel and Geno Smith were considered middle-round development guys not even in the same league as the top guys mentioned.

I see this year shaping out much the same way. The focus in general is on the names people have been talking about for one or two years like McCarron, Murray, Bridgewater, and Boyd. I think Bridgewater will be the top QB taken, and McCarron may wind up going in the first round. Other than that, it's just so rare to look at a QB in the preseason and say, "He could be a top guy in the class if he has a phenomenal year." No ****ing shit, Sherlock. If any QB has a phenomenal year, he is going to get looks from teams. The fact that the particular QB you're talking about hasn't shown you anything yet and you're waiting to see it in his senior season just might tell you that the QB isn't capable of doing it.

There are just too many of those kinds of guys in this year's class. Murray is maxed out and short. Boyd has yet to be consistently good over the entire course of a college season. Bridgewater will impress due to his size, and as long as McCarron doesn't ****ing suck, I think he'll be looked at by a desperate enough team (like the Chiefs for instance) as a possible option. QBs like Morris, Fales, and Mettenberger will be the ones who sneak into the top QB picture midway through the season and "surprise" people.
Murray is maxed out? wtf does that even mean?

As far as height he's an inch taller than Drew Brees and 2 inches taller than Russell Wilson. Sure, you don't want some midget behind center, and the prototypical body for an NFL would be someone like Tyler Bray. But people look at height as a barrier of whether a QB will be successful in the NFL or not. Murray played in the SEC, and they're trench players are every bit as big as the ones you see in the NFL.
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Old 07-23-2013, 06:03 PM   #6
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Bridgewater is the cream of this crop and will end up being a top 2 pick.
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Old 07-23-2013, 07:00 PM   #7
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Doesn't matter. The top ranked QB of this class is already on our roster.


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Old 07-24-2013, 12:02 AM   #8
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Doesn't matter. The top ranked QB of this class is already on our roster.


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Old 07-24-2013, 08:42 AM   #9
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I don't get the Bridgewater hype.

He's still an underclassman (junior) going into the 2013 season and only has one decent season against mediocre competition. And he's not the "dual threat" guy that people seem to think he is.

Compare him against my two guys, Chuckie Keeton & Marcus Mariota, who are also going to be a junior and a red shirt sophomore respectively going into the 2013 season:

Bridgewater:
Keeton:
Mariota:
Win/Loss: 11-2
11-2
12-1
Comp/Att: 287/419
275/409
230/336
Yards: 3718
3373
2677
Comp %: 68.5%
67.6%
68.5%
YPA: 8.87
8.29
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TD/Int: 27/8
27/9
32/6
Sacks: 28
17
17
Rating: 160.5
154.6
163.2
Rushing Att/Yds/TDs: 74/26/1
129/619/8
106/752/5

Bridgewater is listed at 6'3", 198 lbs.
Keeton is 6'2", 200 lbs.
Mariota is 6'4", 211 lbs.

Bridgewater is a good player, but I don't see where the hype is justified for him to be considered the potential overall #1 pick in the draft when there are QB's available that are as good or better. Also considering that you've got guys like South Carolina LB Jadeveon Clowney, Michigan OT Taylor Lewan, Texas A&M OT Jake Matthews, Notre Dame's Stephen Tuitt, USC's Marquis Lee, BYU's Kyle Van Noy (much better player than 2013 top five pick Ziggy Ansah) - all of whom are better than their respective counterparts who went high in the draft in 2013.

And considering that most mocks have either Jacksonville or Oakland picking first in the 2014 draft, I don't see how it's possible for either team to pass on Clowney. Both teams were the lowest teams in the NFL in 2012 for total sacks, and they are going to pass on Clowney for QB's that weren't as good as either Geno Smith or Matt Barkley at the same stage? That's some crazy shit right there.



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Old 07-25-2013, 07:44 AM   #10
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I don't get the Bridgewater hype.

He's still an underclassman (junior) going into the 2013 season and only has one decent season against mediocre competition. And he's not the "dual threat" guy that people seem to think he is.

Compare him against my two guys, Chuckie Keeton & Marcus Mariota, who are also going to be a junior and a red shirt sophomore respectively going into the 2013 season:

Bridgewater:
Keeton:
Mariota:
Win/Loss: 11-2
11-2
12-1
Comp/Att: 287/419
275/409
230/336
Yards: 3718
3373
2677
Comp %: 68.5%
67.6%
68.5%
YPA: 8.87
8.29
7.97
TD/Int: 27/8
27/9
32/6
Sacks: 28
17
17
Rating: 160.5
154.6
163.2
Rushing Att/Yds/TDs: 74/26/1
129/619/8
106/752/5

Bridgewater is listed at 6'3", 198 lbs.
Keeton is 6'2", 200 lbs.
Mariota is 6'4", 211 lbs.

Bridgewater is a good player, but I don't see where the hype is justified for him to be considered the potential overall #1 pick in the draft when there are QB's available that are as good or better. Also considering that you've got guys like South Carolina LB Jadeveon Clowney, Michigan OT Taylor Lewan, Texas A&M OT Jake Matthews, Notre Dame's Stephen Tuitt, USC's Marquis Lee, BYU's Kyle Van Noy (much better player than 2013 top five pick Ziggy Ansah) - all of whom are better than their respective counterparts who went high in the draft in 2013.

And considering that most mocks have either Jacksonville or Oakland picking first in the 2014 draft, I don't see how it's possible for either team to pass on Clowney. Both teams were the lowest teams in the NFL in 2012 for total sacks, and they are going to pass on Clowney for QB's that weren't as good as either Geno Smith or Matt Barkley at the same stage? That's some crazy shit right there.



I don't get the Bridgewater love, either, to be honest.

I think he benefits from getting to cake-walk through the Big East this season, and his performance against Florida - while solid - just doesn't resonate that much with me. It was good, not great. And maybe part of the reason that does little for me is that I saw that defense in person, when Missouri played them, and consistently saw Missouri WRs running open all over the place (while James Franklin passes zoomed into the hands of Florida defenders).

He also has a big-time rep as a "leader" and "huddle guy" and you know how much the talking heads and NFL folks like to talk up that shit.

I think Geno Smith is/was a superior prospect entering his last of college football. But that clearly is not going to be the mindset of the majority on this one, which we all know rules.
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I think people just like saying Teddy Bridgewater. It's memorable and sticks out for referencing early projections. If the guy's name was Frank Hamilton, the novice would be like "who?"
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if aaron murray is the 2nd best QB, we are well and truly ****ed...
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if aaron murray is the 2nd best QB, we are well and truly ****ed...
We're not drafting a QB until, at the earliest 2016.

Might as well get used to it.
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And I'm going to throw out some dark horse guys that have the potential to really skyrocket up based on size and arm:

Adam Kennedy, Arkansas State: 6'5", 225 lbs.
- Former Utah State QB that was the incumbent but because of a shoulder injury, was forced to the sidelines and never regained the starting position back due to the explosiveness and dual threat potential of Chuckie Keeton. (Sounds eerily familiar to the Smith/Kaepernick thing this past year.) Decided to transfer to Arkansas State as a red shirt senior to showcase his skills for an additional season in an effort to elevate his draft status. A gamer and a winner with excellent accuracy. A very good athlete as well who isn't afraid to use his legs.



Casey Pachall, QB; TCU: 6'5", 230 lbs.
- Has a lot of tools you could possible want in a potential NFL quarterback: size, arm, accuracy, etc. Was leading the nation in QB rating in 2012 but was arrested for a DUI which followed a failed drug test and admittance of using cocaine and ecstasy to police in 2011.

Entered substance abuse rehab in 2012 and has been reinstated by the Horned Frogs in2013.

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As a UGA fan let me tell you Murray (to this point) isn't an NFL QB. Way, way, way to streaky. In a bad way.
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