Chiefs Woof. Alright, so what would you do? - Page 9

Chris Meck · 11-21-2023, 06:48 AM

NOW.

Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'.

What would you do NOW?

I would stop with the rotation at WR.

I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented.

I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you.

When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there.

Probably run a lot of 21.

Keep feeding Pacheco.

Simplify as much as you can.

T-post Tom · 11-21-2023, 12:42 PM

1. More run plays with better variety. This includes practice. The o-line obviously needs more practice in blocking run plays. Also, like the idea of having two backs in the backfield more often. #10 & #1 are both adept at catching passes out of the backfield. Keep the opposing defenses guessing.
2. More screen passes. More jet sweeps.
3. More 2 TE sets. More targets for TEs not named Kelce. These extra receptions will come at the expense of targets for the WR group. At least until they improve.
4. Cut back on WR rotation. 24 & 11 are backups/special teams.
5. Extra daily sessions with the JUGS machine for all pass catchers.
6. Bring in a fresh face for coaching the WRs. Title does not matter, call him a “consultant” if you want. Preferably a bigger name that has relevant NFL experience & success. Someone that will command immediate respect from the players. Keep, reassign or fire the current WR coach. It would be nice to send a message here, but whatever.
7. Keep #15 happy.
8. Keep #15 healthy

IowaHawkeyeChief · 11-21-2023, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

The Mahomes INT ended up a wash. The Eagles punted a few plays later, the Chiefs had a good punt return, and scored a TD.

We don't know how the game turns out if any of these plays happened. If MVS catches the ball, the Eagles get the ball back with 1:30 only needing a FG. If Watson doesn't drop the 4th and 25, we still have 40 yards remaining for a TD.

The Kelce fumble was huge. Provided they score a TD on that possession the Eagles would be down 10 again. They were at least in FG range.

A wash? What, it was first down in the redzone, from the 13 I believe. He threw the pick in the endzone... a better throw and it's 7, if it's incomplete it's second and goal. Horrible pass by Mahomes and was anything but a wash.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 11-21-2023, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers

He clearly doesn't look the same this year, its a serious concern

What? He doesn't look as good so teams are tripple teaming him?

Chief Pagan · 11-21-2023, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What's the harm in giving Rice and Toney 75% of the snaps as top two receivers?

I'm puzzled as to why Rice doesn't get even more snaps.

I think the 'harm' in giving Toney more snaps is fear of injury.

He may well be load managed just like McKinnon for the entire regular season.

And that is a defendable strategy.

**Easy 6** · 11-21-2023, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

What? He doesn't look as good so teams are tripple teaming him?

I don't need you in here berating me like you're going around doing everyone else today, whether its age, injury or a little of both, he's looked off to my eye and I'm damn sure not alone in that assessment

Gary Cooper · 11-21-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

A wash? What, it was first down in the redzone, from the 13 I believe. He threw the pick in the endzone... a better throw and it's 7, if it's incomplete it's second and goal. Horrible pass by Mahomes and was anything but a wash.

The Eagles were stuffed, punted, the Chiefs had a big return, and scored a TD anyway. So either way, the Chiefs were up 7 points, even if Mahomes didn't throw the INT. Unless you think Mahomes throws a TD and the other chain of events still occurs. Doesn't work that way. We don't know what would have happened but we know what actually did.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 11-21-2023, 01:56 PM

He knows the system, he would be a good fit

Facts im catching that! https://t.co/SScyQqS3qd pic.twitter.com/zCVqRvzuiH
— Desean Jackson (@DeSeanJackson10) November 21, 2023

poolboy · 11-21-2023, 01:57 PM

The receivers hit rock bottom yesterday...I believe there is no where to go but up

el borracho · 11-21-2023, 01:58 PM

Rice, Toney and MVS for the majority of snaps. These three are your most explosive players.
Hardman for the gadget plays (he's too dim for a larger role).
Moore, and Watson to the bench (nothing special about either one).

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think MVS would improve with additional reps. It's probably pretty hard to come in cold and just perform. I think the more he's in there catching, the better his hands will be.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! · 11-21-2023, 02:00 PM

Rice and Toney do not need to come out at all. Rice only playing 57% of the snaps is pitiful. Falls on Reid. Toney and Rice moving forwards. And for ****s sake, if the run is working, keep running the ball!

wheeler08 · 11-21-2023, 02:03 PM

Fire Matt Nagy, and some guy we have coaching WRs

**srvy** · 11-21-2023, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I'd personally panic, check CP, sign every broke dick FA WR this week that I could while stress eating In-A-Tub and watching the 2021-22 Divisional Round game over and over.

Four hot with powdered cheese please!

**srvy** · 11-21-2023, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63

We need to CATCH the ****ing ball - problem solved

We had them right where we needed them. They couldn't stop the run so at halftime eagles changed fronts in running downs. Andy schemed plays to go over the top. All we had to do was run the right route catch the ball and run away with it.

crayzkirk · 11-21-2023, 02:43 PM

We, as fans, do nothing. As frustrating as this is to watch, it has to be 1000 times worse for the players.

I'm ready to let it go and move on to Raider week...

**srvy** · 11-21-2023, 02:44 PM

I know we all like to claim Andy is pass happy and will move away from the ground game that is working.

I think you have to throw it deep when they load up the box. Our receivers didn't get the job done. Short and simple if they do what they are paid to do we win big.

There is no help coming that is better than we have. I'll try to be patient and hope those guys get it figured out.

11-21-2023, 06:48 AM
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1724910	Woof. Alright, so what would you do? NOW. Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'. What would you do NOW? I would stop with the rotation at WR. I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented. I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you. When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there. Probably run a lot of 21. Keep feeding Pacheco. Simplify as much as you can.
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11-21-2023, 12:42 PM	#121
T-post Tom Threepeat! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $4407293	1. More run plays with better variety. This includes practice. The o-line obviously needs more practice in blocking run plays. Also, like the idea of having two backs in the backfield more often. #10 & #1 are both adept at catching passes out of the backfield. Keep the opposing defenses guessing. 2. More screen passes. More jet sweeps. 3. More 2 TE sets. More targets for TEs not named Kelce. These extra receptions will come at the expense of targets for the WR group. At least until they improve. 4. Cut back on WR rotation. 24 & 11 are backups/special teams. 5. Extra daily sessions with the JUGS machine for all pass catchers. 6. Bring in a fresh face for coaching the WRs. Title does not matter, call him a “consultant” if you want. Preferably a bigger name that has relevant NFL experience & success. Someone that will command immediate respect from the players. Keep, reassign or fire the current WR coach. It would be nice to send a message here, but whatever. 7. Keep #15 happy. 8. Keep #15 healthy __________________ You seem nice!
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11-21-2023, 01:56 PM	#127
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6740400	He knows the system, he would be a good fit Facts im catching that! https://t.co/SScyQqS3qd pic.twitter.com/zCVqRvzuiH — Desean Jackson (@DeSeanJackson10) November 21, 2023
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11-21-2023, 01:57 PM	#128
poolboy Veteran Join Date: Feb 2019 Casino cash: $1400400	The receivers hit rock bottom yesterday...I believe there is no where to go but up
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11-21-2023, 01:58 PM	#129
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6159148	Rice, Toney and MVS for the majority of snaps. These three are your most explosive players. Hardman for the gadget plays (he's too dim for a larger role). Moore, and Watson to the bench (nothing special about either one). I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think MVS would improve with additional reps. It's probably pretty hard to come in cold and just perform. I think the more he's in there catching, the better his hands will be.
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11-21-2023, 02:00 PM	#130
MAHOMO 4 LIFE! In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2018 Casino cash: $6740400	Rice and Toney do not need to come out at all. Rice only playing 57% of the snaps is pitiful. Falls on Reid. Toney and Rice moving forwards. And for ****s sake, if the run is working, keep running the ball!
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11-21-2023, 02:03 PM	#131
wheeler08 Veteran Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Indiana Casino cash: $4471183	Fire Matt Nagy, and some guy we have coaching WRs
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crayzkirk Veteran Join Date: Nov 2016 Casino cash: $3670000	We, as fans, do nothing. As frustrating as this is to watch, it has to be 1000 times worse for the players. I'm ready to let it go and move on to Raider week...
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11-21-2023, 02:44 PM	#135
srvy Fight, build, win! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: KC Casino cash: $1451250	I know we all like to claim Andy is pass happy and will move away from the ground game that is working. I think you have to throw it deep when they load up the box. Our receivers didn't get the job done. Short and simple if they do what they are paid to do we win big. There is no help coming that is better than we have. I'll try to be patient and hope those guys get it figured out. __________________ "The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
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