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Old 07-21-2009, 06:05 PM  
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Scouts Inc.: Film shows LT on the decline

LJ > LT

Suck it, Eggos.

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/afcwest/0...e-decline.html

It pains me to say it because I respect what he has accomplished a great deal, but LaDainian Tomlinson is heavily on the decline and the end is near for an all-time great running back. I base this on one thing -- film.


Chadiha on LT
ESPN.com's Jeffri Chadiha takes a look at LaDainian Tomlinson's mindset after turning 30. Story
Tomlinson clearly was injured to some degree throughout last season, and I really have no way of judging how severe those injuries were. Also, his offensive line declined to some degree as well in 2008. But the Tomlinson of old would have shined despite the blocking he received last season. He was that good in his prime. He is not that good now.

As we enter 2009, there isn't a player I am more excited to see in the preseason than Tomlinson. All reports coming out of minicamp are extremely positive. But I want to see it on the field. However, this is a great player who has never needed the preseason and I would doubt we will get many glimpses of him until opening day. That is unfortunate from an evaluation standpoint, but there are some things about him that we do know. And most of them are no longer positive.



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Injuries have taken a toll on Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson.
First, he has taken a beating over the years. Despite his tremendous elusiveness and vision -- he rarely took big head-on shots -- the wear is beginning to deteriorate his once massive skill set.
He no longer explodes out of his cuts like he once did. He rarely breaks long runs -- one of the very first things to go in a great running back. His trademark jump cuts are not what they once were. He doesn't make your jaw drop in the open field and doesn't move the pile as he once did.

Some of this can be attributed to his toe injury, but last year's Tomlinson is more of what we will see than the great Tomlinson of the past. At this point, he gets what is given to him and little more.

Tomlinson eclipsed the 100-yard rushing mark only twice last season, with a high of 106 yards. Those two games were against the Oakland Raiders and New Orleans Saints -- not exactly high-end run defenses. Tomlinson's eyes see the play to make, but his body can't finish it off. That is what happens when great players decline.

Tomlinson's game isn't going to fall off a cliff; it should be a more gradual slide. His yards per carry declined in each of the past two years, dipping to a measly 3.8 in 2008. There will be fewer and fewer highlight runs -- even though he is now a part of a deadly passing offense that will pull defenders out of the box.

The injuries probably will continue to be a problem -- that is simply what happens to running backs with the number of carries he has logged. A reduced workload -- giving way to Darren Sproles at times -- should do Tomlinson some good for the short term, but banking on him to be as durable as he once was would be unwise. He is now a complementary piece of an exceptional offense. Philip Rivers must be the central figure.

He will continue to be productive. If you had to pick one running back who would get double-digit touchdowns this season, Tomlinson very well could be the choice. He is still an elite short-yardage runner and his competitiveness cannot be denied.

He also remains an excellent pass-catching option. But make no mistake,
he is declining and the Tomlinson of old is now just someone of the past. Someone we can only see on tape.

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Old 07-21-2009, 07:41 PM   #31
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LT is going down hard this season.

Sproles may be starting by season's end.
So quit being a pussy.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:42 PM   #32
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So quit being a pussy.
I'm just trying to be fair.

I'm not going to enter into a competition where I'm at a disadvantage, i.e. where LT has more total touches.

If you feel you are at a disadvantage with LT and LJ having a relatively equal number of touches, perhaps you should back out.
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Old 07-21-2009, 07:51 PM   #33
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I'm just trying to be fair.

I'm not going to enter into a competition where I'm at a disadvantage, i.e. where LT has more total touches.

If you feel you are at a disadvantage with LT and LJ having a relatively equal number of touches, perhaps you should back out.
If LT and LJ have the same amt of touches I'm taking LT. I just dont think hes going to have the same amount of carries. I think that his carries + receptions will be a little closer to LJs carries.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:29 PM   #34
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I don't think LT is going to last 16 games.
I don't think LJ's gonna last past when the gauranteed money kicks in
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:42 PM   #35
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I don't think LJ's gonna last past when the gauranteed money kicks in
Dude is worthless as it is now... The Chiefs would be a better football team without him... He provides nothing to this team, nor to the future of this team... The sooner he gets hurt, released, traded (, dude is washed up) or just flat out quits, the better this team will be...
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:43 PM   #36
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Dude is worthless as it is now... The Chiefs would be a better football team without him... He provides nothing to this team, nor to the future of this team... The sooner he gets hurt, released, traded (, dude is washed up) or just flat out quits, the better this team will be...
Todd Haley disagrees with you.
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Old 07-21-2009, 11:47 PM   #37
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Todd Haley disagrees with you.
Fine, let him, he has the right to, but the first time LJ stands there like normal and wiffs a simple block, while allowing Cassell to get crushed.

LJ isnt going to like the reaction of one said Mr Haley.... Sooner the cancer is removed from the team, the better the team will be...
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Old 07-22-2009, 12:31 AM   #38
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Fine, let him, he has the right to, but the first time LJ stands there like normal and wiffs a simple block, while allowing Cassell to get crushed.

LJ isnt going to like the reaction of one said Mr Haley.... Sooner the cancer is removed from the team, the better the team will be...
Not with Kolby Smith getting 15 touches a game...........
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Not with Kolby Smith getting 15 touches a game...........
Kolby freakin' Smith can't even get on the field at this point.

He'll be lucky to make the roster.
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Not with Kolby Smith getting 15 touches a game...........
True, thats a great point... Lets hope Smith, actually anyone steps up and replaces LJ... We will need guys like Smith and Charles to fill the void left by our high priced one dimensional back....
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