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Old 05-15-2011, 05:49 PM   #361
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anyone got Insider for this?

Josh Selby is a lottery talent


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Old 05-15-2011, 06:40 PM   #362
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anyone got Insider for this?

Josh Selby is a lottery talent


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1. Josh Selby is a lottery talent
Last year I was wowed by the play of Avery Bradley and Lance Stephenson at Impact. Both Bradley and Stephenson were high school phenoms and lottery-type talents who struggled as college freshmen in their respective programs.

This year Impact has a similar player -- Kansas Jayhawks guard Josh Selby. Like Stephenson, he was considered one of the top five high school players in the country. Like Stephenson, he really struggled as a freshman. And like Stephenson, NBA teams have questions about his character.

Selby was, in a word, awesome in the workouts I saw in Vegas. At Kansas, Selby looked wild, out of control and oddly unathletic. He struggled to create space from himself and made a number of bad decisions with the ball and in his shot selection.

In Vegas he once again resembled the superstar we saw in high school. He was explosive athletically, got to the basket at will and shot the ball very well from range.

In 3-on-3 games, the UCLA Bruins' Malcolm Lee -- a terrific perimeter defender -- struggled to stay in front of Selby, who finished above the rim with a number of impressive dunks. Selby showed off an impressive floater and has the ability to create space with his crossover and then step back and nail the J. He really resembled Golden State Warriors guard Monta Ellis.

So how could Selby be so good here and so mediocre at Kansas? ESPN Insider David Thorpe had an excellent post concerning Selby in late January that sums up the thinking from a scout's perspective.


Selby had some answers of his own. He missed the first nine games of the season serving an NCAA suspension for taking illegal benefits as a high school player. By the time he was able to play, Kansas had a tight rotation that Selby would have to fit into. Also, the style of play wasn't a great fit for Selby. He is at his best initiating the offense and creating off the dribble. At Kansas, he was often asked to get the ball up the floor, dump it to one of the Morris twins and then spot up in the corner.

Finally, a midseason ankle injury caused Selby to miss three games at a critical juncture of the season. When he returned, he wasn't the same. He lost much of his quickness and was ineffective for the rest of the year. With point guard Tyshawn Taylor returning to school and Elijah Robinson the point guard in waiting, Selby decided he'd be better served jumping to the NBA.

"Sometimes you just have to decide what is best for your career," Selby said. "I loved the guys at Kansas. I loved that for the first time in my life, I really had some stability, a roof over my head, steady meals and a support system. But I felt like my game may be better-suited at the NBA. I know it's a risk, but my whole life has been about taking risks."

Few scouts doubt the talent. But that's not the only issue with Selby. Teams have off-the-court questions about him that play into their concerns. They've heard Selby is selfish, comes from a tough background, and wasn't popular with the other players at Kansas.

Selby defends himself. "I'm a loving kid, really I am," Selby said. "I grew up in Baltimore. Life was tough. I had to learn how to be tough. But I'm not a bad kid. I chose basketball instead of the street. Basketball was my way to escape all of that. I won't do anything to jeopardize that. Basketball saved my life. I love the game and I'm a loving kid."

That was echoed in the gym in Vegas. I asked 12 of the prospects working out which player had impressed them the most over the past few weeks. Every one that I spoke with named Selby.

I've been doing this for a long time, and after watching what Selby did in the gym the past two days, I think he could be the biggest riser in the draft if he works out well against his obvious competition -- BYU's Jimmer Fredette, Boston College's Reggie Jackson, Michigan's Darius Morris and Hofstra's Charles Jenkins. Selby's landing in the lottery isn't out of the question if he outplays those players in workouts.

I'm not sure if he's a point guard -- he doesn't see the floor particularly well yet, and his decision-making can be questionable -- and at 6-foot-2 he is undersized for the 2. But his quickness and ability to create his own shot come at a premium right now in the NBA, and few can do it better than Selby.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:04 PM   #363
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Where the **** was this athleticism at KU, Selby? You **** head.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:17 PM   #364
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Where the **** was this athleticism at KU, Selby? You **** head.
1. it was 3 on 3 so he had more space to work in ... Selby constantly had problems with the backside defender slapping away his dribble at kansas.

2. KU's offensive system is ass for guards


i get nothing but shit for saying it and yet ... imo Self does to guards what Marty used to do to QB's. They put such a leash on them that they get scared to do anything and don't develop they way they should.
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Old 05-15-2011, 07:30 PM   #365
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Yeah, Chalmers and Rush sure aren't NBA guards or anything (or Derron Williams, if you count non KU Self guys).
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:02 PM   #366
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:18 PM   #367
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:31 PM   #368
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There is some truth that Self's offense isn't ideal for guards. It's not that it's bad, but it's not a guard oriented offense compared to UNC and Kentucky for example. But compared to alot of schools it is. If I was a big, I would think KU would be the #1 school I would want to go to. If I was a guard, I would think it would be UNC or Kentucky.

As for Selby, he might not even have played again or at least not until the tournament ala Kyrie Irving except Self challenged his manhood. It was pretty obvious Selby wasn't 100% and didn't have the explosiveness he was dubbed for.
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Old 05-15-2011, 09:34 PM   #369
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Daniels going to commit tomorrow between Texas and KU. Seems the consensus though of recuitabators that Daniels has already decided on Texas.
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