The 22 starters at season's end

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-24-2008, 08:17 PM

Jeff Webb
Damion McIntosh
Brian Waters
Casey Wiegmann
John Welbourn
Will Svitek
Tony Gonzalez
Dwayne Bowe
Brodie Croyle
Boomer Grigsby
Kolby Smith
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Tamba Hali
Ron Edwards
Alfonso Boone
Jared Allen
Derrick Johnson
Napoleon Harris
Donnie Edwards
Ty Law
Patrick Surtain
Bernard Pollard
Jarred Page

The starters for the end(last game)of the 2007 season.

How many of these players would you consider legit starters on "a" 2008 NFL team?

**pr_capone** · 01-24-2008, 08:24 PM

Jeff Webb - no
Damion McIntosh - no
Brian Waters - yes (but needs to improve from last season)
Casey Wiegmann - yes (but not in KC)
John Welbourn - HELL no
Will Svitek - no
Tony Gonzalez - yes
Dwayne Bowe - yes
Brodie Croyle - no
Boomer Grigsby - no
Kolby Smith - no
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Tamba Hali - yes
Ron Edwards - no
Alfonso Boone - yes
Jared Allen - yes
Derrick Johnson - yes
Napoleon Harris - no
Donnie Edwards - yes
Ty Law - yes (but not in KC... he would start on a horrible defensive team)
Patrick Surtain - yes (but not much longer)
Bernard Pollard - no (but he is young so I am willing to give him next year)
Jarred Page - no ( "" )

Extra Point · 01-24-2008, 08:26 PM

Good poll. Good job. Rep.

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-24-2008, 08:29 PM

With only 7 votes & I'm already surprised at the vote

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-24-2008, 08:33 PM

Bowe, Gonzo, DJ, Allen, and maybe Waters. Hali would not start on an "A" team, and if he did, he'd be a weaker link.

Sfeihc · 01-24-2008, 08:35 PM

I came up with 8 out of 22 and a couple of those 8 are on the fringe or on the wrong side of the hill.

offense
Big Apple
Waters
TG
Bowe

defense
Hali
Allen
DJ
Surtain

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-24-2008, 08:38 PM

You will have a weak spot or two on even a all time great team. But certain players may be considered to weak

TEX · 01-24-2008, 08:43 PM

I came up with 5

Waters
Gonzo
Bowe
Allen
D.J.

Man we $UCK.

Wile_E_Coyote · 01-24-2008, 08:45 PM

I think you could get by with a McIntosh or Kolby Smith. But Law & Webb I just can't see

Mecca · 01-24-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Bowe, Gonzo, DJ, Allen, and maybe Waters. Hali would not start on an "A" team, and if he did, he'd be a weaker link.

If we're talking about a top level team that has an outstanding defense then Hali would probably be the 3rd end that rotates in, like Alex Brown does in Chicago.

BigChiefFan · 01-24-2008, 08:57 PM

Just for shits and giggles, my picks are...
Waters, Gonzo, Bowe, Allen, Johnson, D. Edwards, Surtain, and Page.

Damn, this thread really shows we are far from being a good team, very far.

Mecca · 01-24-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Just for shits and giggles, my picks are...
Waters, Gonzo, Bowe, Allen, Johnson, D. Edwards, Surtain, and Page.

Damn, this thread really shows we are far from being a good team, very far.

It's funny but if you play a game like Madden in franchise mode it really smacks you in the face how many guys you have to replace.

Bill S Preston · 01-24-2008, 09:04 PM

I consider the Jaguars a solid A team in the NFL, with that in mind I would think that Tony G, Dwayne Bowe, Jared Allen, and Derrick Johnson would be starters.

BigChiefFan · 01-24-2008, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's funny but if you play a game like Madden in franchise mode it really smacks you in the face how many guys you have to replace.

The cupboard is obviously pretty bare. Damn, I can't believe Clark didn't clean house, what the Hell is he thinking? All he has to do is look at the roster and realize how much money the team is spending STARTER money to, that is playing back-up to realize how piss poor Carl has done as GM. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but this thread really clearly indicates how bad off we are, especially considering some of the guys I mentioned as starters will need to be replaced sooner than later.

Mecca · 01-24-2008, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

The cupboard is obviously pretty bare. Damn, I can't believe Clark didn't clean house, what the Hell is he thinking? All he has to do is look at the roster and realize how much money the team is spending STARTER money to, that is playing back-up to realize how piss poor Carl has done as GM. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but this thread really clearly indicates how bad off we are, especially considering some of the guys I mentioned as starters will need to be replaced sooner than later.

And Clark just a few weeks ago laid down the "win now" verdict with his "we are going to compete next year" line he used....so much so several draft sites have summaries that include a line like this..

"There is a chance that Kansas City might go quarterback at this position, particularly if they end up drafting in front of Atlanta and have a shot at Matt Ryan, but with the pressure on the current administration in Kansas City to win now, taking a QB here as a developmental player doesn't make a great deal of sense to me."

How do you tell a bad team that needs to rebuild they have to win now? It makes no sense.

View Poll Results: Pick the players that would be legit starters on "A" 2008 NFL team?
Jeff Webb	6	7.23%
Damion McIntosh	32	38.55%
Brian Waters	64	77.11%
Casey Wiegmann	19	22.89%
John Welbourn	5	6.02%
Will Svitek	3	3.61%
Tony Gonzalez	72	86.75%
Dwayne Bowe	72	86.75%
Brodie Croyle	21	25.30%
Boomer Grigsby	7	8.43%
Kolby Smith	25	30.12%
~GAZ~	8	9.64%
Tamba Hali	61	73.49%
Ron Edwards	3	3.61%
Alfonso Boone	40	48.19%
Jared Allen	74	89.16%
Derrick Johnson	71	85.54%
Napoleon Harris	26	31.33%
Donnie Edwards	59	71.08%
Ty Law	19	22.89%
Patrick Surtain	37	44.58%
Bernard Pollard	24	28.92%
Jarred Page	38	45.78%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 83. You may not vote on this poll

01-24-2008, 08:17 PM
Wile_E_Coyote avatar down for remodel Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	The 22 starters at season's end Jeff Webb Damion McIntosh Brian Waters Casey Wiegmann John Welbourn Will Svitek Tony Gonzalez Dwayne Bowe Brodie Croyle Boomer Grigsby Kolby Smith ------ Tamba Hali Ron Edwards Alfonso Boone Jared Allen Derrick Johnson Napoleon Harris Donnie Edwards Ty Law Patrick Surtain Bernard Pollard Jarred Page The starters for the end(last game)of the 2007 season. How many of these players would you consider legit starters on "a" 2008 NFL team?
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01-24-2008, 08:24 PM	#2
pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10018214	Jeff Webb - no Damion McIntosh - no Brian Waters - yes (but needs to improve from last season) Casey Wiegmann - yes (but not in KC) John Welbourn - HELL no Will Svitek - no Tony Gonzalez - yes Dwayne Bowe - yes Brodie Croyle - no Boomer Grigsby - no Kolby Smith - no ------ Tamba Hali - yes Ron Edwards - no Alfonso Boone - yes Jared Allen - yes Derrick Johnson - yes Napoleon Harris - no Donnie Edwards - yes Ty Law - yes (but not in KC... he would start on a horrible defensive team) Patrick Surtain - yes (but not much longer) Bernard Pollard - no (but he is young so I am willing to give him next year) Jarred Page - no ( "" )
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01-24-2008, 08:26 PM	#3
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01-24-2008, 08:33 PM	#5
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Bowe, Gonzo, DJ, Allen, and maybe Waters. Hali would not start on an "A" team, and if he did, he'd be a weaker link. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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01-24-2008, 08:35 PM	#6
Sfeihc It's All Good Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $10010133	I came up with 8 out of 22 and a couple of those 8 are on the fringe or on the wrong side of the hill. offense Big Apple Waters TG Bowe defense Hali Allen DJ Surtain
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01-24-2008, 08:38 PM	#7
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01-24-2008, 08:43 PM	#8
TEX Out Gunning CP's Fandom Police Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Laguna Beach, CA Casino cash: $2383127	I came up with 5 Waters Gonzo Bowe Allen D.J. Man we $UCK. __________________ "The CHIEFS, HAVE THEIR DYNASTY!"
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01-24-2008, 08:45 PM	#9
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01-24-2008, 08:57 PM	#11
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01-24-2008, 09:04 PM	#13
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