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02-25-2013, 08:17 AM | Topic Starter |
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The Tony LaRussa Analogy
Bear with me here...I know nerves are on edge and tempers are high...
The St Louis Cardinals hired TLR and Walt Jocketty in 1996 after nearly 15 years of failure. They hadn't gone to the playoffs since 87 and hadn't won a WS since 82. It was one of the longest stretches of Cardinal ineptitude in their history. TLR proceded to really piss people off. He kicked Ozzie Smith to the curb. He played favorites in the clubhouse. He ruined many young pitchers (anyone remember Rick Ankiel?) by meat grinding and playing head games. Jocketty didn't seem any better. Ron Gant and Danny Jackson were signed as free agents. We had a 3 ring circus with doper Mark McQwire. And that's just the beginning.... Yet, as much as they pissed me off, and with as many seemingly bone headed moves as they made, from 2000 to 2011 this Cardinal team had one of its best runs in its long storied history. Because TLR and Jocketty, in the end, knew what they were doing. I believe the same is going to happen here. I believe Reid and Dorsey are in this for the long haul. They could care less about what has happened the previous 30 years. And yes, we might get Alex Smith or we might not. And yes, we might draft Geno Smith or we might not. Further they are gonna make some of you really angry. In the end, however, winning fixes everything. Just as TLR and Jocketty had a plan, so do Reid and Dorsey. They are not going to tell you what it is, nor should they. And just like it took TLR and Jocketty 4 years to turn the Cardinals around, it is gonna take a bit to make a 2-14 club into something that resembles a winner. Ten years from now the Chiefs will have have won several playoff games played in a couple of SB. Maybe even won one. I truly believe that. And I am gonna enjoy watching it happen. No matter who the we draft in the first round this year. So yeah, go ahead and call me a dumbass and Truefan. I've been called worse. |
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02-25-2013, 08:19 AM | #2 |
FINALLY! The wait is over.
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Hope springs eternal.
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02-25-2013, 08:22 AM | #3 |
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Oh cool. Since that happened once with a team in another sport it will surely happen here.
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02-25-2013, 08:24 AM | #4 |
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02-25-2013, 08:24 AM | #5 |
Now you've pissed me off!
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The personnel machinations of football and baseball are so different as to be almost completely unrecognizable from one another.
The core of your argument is just trust these guys because you believe in them. It's tautological.
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02-25-2013, 08:25 AM | #6 |
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No it's not. Compentency is the common variable.
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02-25-2013, 08:28 AM | #7 |
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How has John Dorsey proven himself as competent in his position as GM? The same way Scott Pioli did in New England?
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Reid has a bit of a track record and Dorsey came from the most successful small/mid market team in the country. |
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02-25-2013, 08:31 AM | #9 | |
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Quote:
Herm/Carl or Haley/Pioli in February 2009?
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02-25-2013, 08:32 AM | #10 |
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02-25-2013, 08:38 AM | #11 |
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I argued this with TJ Carpentar yesterday, he said we should trust Dorsey because he's the best talent evaluator in the NFL. I said "How many picks has he made?"
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02-25-2013, 08:26 AM | #12 |
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Addendum:
You know what really changed the Cardinals' fortunes? New ownership.
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02-25-2013, 08:29 AM | #14 |
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So we're back to believing that he has because we've imbued these people with competence that they have neither proven nor disproven.
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02-25-2013, 08:26 AM | #15 |
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Don't care about the Cardinals or Daniel LaRusso
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