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Old 05-02-2012, 08:06 AM   #1
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Still have hope for Stanzi.

I want to see Cassel go down week 1.

If for no other reason than WE HAVE NO CLUE WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF.

If Stanzi doesn't have a couple games to flash, I will be pissed. If they won't give him a chance, who's to say they even draft a QB?
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:22 PM   #2
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I'm not sure getting ones hopes up for any of these guys is a healthy thing. At least not starting May 1st 2012. This could become a psychosis if it hasn't manifested itself already.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:26 PM   #3
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I'm not sure getting ones hopes up for any of these guys is a healthy thing. At least not starting May 1st 2012. This could become a psychosis if it hasn't manifested itself already.
I've already tattood his name on my eyelids.

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Old 05-01-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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I'm not sure getting ones hopes up for any of these guys is a healthy thing. At least not starting May 1st 2012. This could become a psychosis if it hasn't manifested itself already.


Could not agree more...

Jevan Snead anyone?
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:19 PM   #5
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Going to be some fun QB watching in college football next year.

Remember the 1st time I saw Tyler Bray last year for the first time. Was impressed as I never knew of him.

Just saw some youtube videos of him. Seem like he has this side armish/3 qtrs delivery? Just an observation.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:25 PM   #6
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Think this is a pretty interesting read also.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...rback-prospect
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:40 PM   #7
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Nice little breakdown of prospects.

It never ceases to crack my up, however, when folks that compare players absolutely refuse to cross the race lines when they do it.

Black QB that isn't exactly a burner? Must be Josh Freeman; nah, can't be Joe Flacco - you're Josh Freeman. White guy that likes to run but can't throw for shit? Nah, you can't be Brad Smith, you have to be a less athletic Matt Jones. Besides, we need Brad Smith freed up for the other black quarterback we're talking about with Denard Robinson - let's make sure not to compare him to Eric Crouch or anything. Oh wait, lets not forget Tajh Boyd - gotta get that McNabb comparison in there somehow...

It's probably harmless in the long run, but it's still kinda funny to see it. It applies to all sports at all levels. Skill-set comparisons are never race neutral.
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Nice little breakdown of prospects.

It never ceases to crack my up, however, when folks that compare players absolutely refuse to cross the race lines when they do it.

Black QB that isn't exactly a burner? Must be Josh Freeman; nah, can't be Joe Flacco - you're Josh Freeman. White guy that likes to run but can't throw for shit? Nah, you can't be Brad Smith, you have to be a less athletic Matt Jones. Besides, we need Brad Smith freed up for the other black quarterback we're talking about with Denard Robinson - let's make sure not to compare him to Eric Crouch or anything. Oh wait, lets not forget Tajh Boyd - gotta get that McNabb comparison in there somehow...

It's probably harmless in the long run, but it's still kinda funny to see it. It applies to all sports at all levels. Skill-set comparisons are never race neutral.
Nah dude they're all Randall Cunninghams.
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:17 PM   #9
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The Cardinals also went past their 'easy dump' point in the Kolb contract, didn't they? They have some built in bonuses that make him much harder to cut now, IIRC.

They could still draft another QB due to how cheap they are now, but it wouldn't surprise me if they move QB down their priority list due to how much they have invested in Kolb and how tough it would be to free themselves of him.

It should be a nice year if you need a QB. But the Chiefs will still screw it up somehow.
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The Cardinals also went past their 'easy dump' point in the Kolb contract, didn't they? They have some built in bonuses that make him much harder to cut now, IIRC.

They could still draft another QB due to how cheap they are now, but it wouldn't surprise me if they move QB down their priority list due to how much they have invested in Kolb and how tough it would be to free themselves of him.

It should be a nice year if you need a QB. But the Chiefs will still screw it up somehow.
Yeah by winning the super bowl.
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Who is going to start the 2014 QBs thread? Should that be concurrent?
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ive conceded that will never draft a qb in the 1st round, it just isnt gonna happen
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ive conceded that will never draft a qb in the 1st round, it just isnt gonna happen
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Oh, that's right...we have to draft one ourselves, thus the near homo-erotic fascination with projects like Jimmy Clausen and Ryan Tannehill.

Some people have short memories. Quinn was one of the best QB prospects that has come out recently, and simply hasn't been given an honest chance. Rookie in 2007. Broke a finger in 2008 and was out for the season. 2009 Mangini wanted Derek Anderson as his QB (and we all know how that worked out for both guys). He's only played 14 games in his pro career and it's mainly been because of dipshit coaches/bad situations (Tebow Mania).

You guys forget how good this guy was in college:

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...(Quinn) set 36 Fighting Irish records during his four seasons with the team. There were ten career records, twelve single-season records, four single-game records and ten miscellaneous records broken by Quinn throughout those four years, including the record for career pass attempts with 1,602; completions with 929; yards-per-game with 239.6; touchdown passes with 95, and the Irish's lowest interception percentage with 2.43. Quinn won 29 games as a starter at Notre Dame, tied for the most in school history.
That's the guy you draft in the first round as a QB. Experienced from a pro system, productive, hard worker, prototype size, etc.

He knows Crennel and Daboll's system. If Pioli is actually interested in winning games instead of continuing to support his (poor) decision in trading for Matt Cassel to be the starter, then Quinn should have every chance/probability of getting the job.
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Mr. First Round right here:



Oh, that's right...we have to draft one ourselves, thus the near homo-erotic fascination with projects like Jimmy Clausen and Ryan Tannehill.

Some people have short memories. Quinn was one of the best QB prospects that has come out recently, and simply hasn't been given an honest chance. Rookie in 2007. Broke a finger in 2008 and was out for the season. 2009 Mangini wanted Derek Anderson as his QB (and we all know how that worked out for both guys). He's only played 14 games in his pro career and it's mainly been because of dipshit coaches/bad situations (Tebow Mania).

You guys forget how good this guy was in college:



That's the guy you draft in the first round as a QB. Experienced from a pro system, productive, hard worker, prototype size, etc.

He knows Crennel and Daboll's system. If Pioli is actually interested in winning games instead of continuing to support his (poor) decision in trading for Matt Cassel to be the starter, then Quinn should have every chance/probability of getting the job.
I don't care what he did 20 years ago in college, in the NFL he sucks ass. Stop pimping him, it's worse than the never ending pimping of an overrated LT prospect(s).
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I don't care what he did 20 years ago in college, in the NFL he sucks ass. Stop pimping him, it's worse than the never ending pimping of an overrated LT prospect(s).
Here's Crennel's take on Quinn at his pro day in 07.

Crennel said Quinn clearly had zip on his passes.

"The fact he could make all his throws, both right and left, he's a polished quarterback," Crennel said. "He's smart. When you watch him on tape you can see he knows where to go with the ball. He will, at times, throw it away when he has to, so we think he's a good, young prospect."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2787845

I'm not saying that it is relevant today, but just pointing out the that Crennel may still like this guy. Probably not just a Pioli pickup.

I am hoping that he can pull off a resurrection similar to a Drew Brees. Brees sucked his first two years as a starter with the Chargers.
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