Have you ever used steroids, HGH, etc.?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

If that's the case why do people continue to use the PED's?

Because they think that being a cock diesel mother****er that can't turn around to wipe their own ass adds some kind of intrinsic value to their self worth.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because they think that being a cock diesel mother****er that can't turn around to wipe their own ass adds some kind of intrinsic value to their self worth.

I find that most guys do it for themselves and could give a shit what other people think. Some actually don't like the attention it draws.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I find that most guys do it for themselves and could give a shit what other people think. Some actually don't like the attention it draws.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I said "some" and that's usually the younger kids. The guys in my gym that compete are older (mid to late 40's) and one never works out in anything but a long sleeved sweat shirt.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I find that most guys do it for themselves and could give a shit what other people think. Some actually don't like the attention it draws.

If they measure their self worth by their size they have some serious issues. Would you want your daughter's self esteem to be tied to the size of her boobs?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If they measure their self worth by their size they have some serious issues. Would you want your daughter's self esteem to be tied to the size of her boobs?

Good God, NO.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If they measure their self worth by their size they have some serious issues. Would you want your daughter's self esteem to be tied to the size of her boobs?

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

That doesn't mean that their self worth is tied to these things.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

That doesn't mean that their self worth is tied to these things.

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

Who are you referring to?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Who are you referring to?

BigCatDaddy.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

ITT: A guy talking about how testosterone made him feel like a better husband, father, and person.

Talk to anyone that has ever had low T and see how they feel.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Talk to anyone that has ever had low T and see how they feel.

It's confusing to follow your train of thought because you are advocating two positions simultaneously while often conflating the rationale.

If you have Low T you have a hormonal disorder. That's entirely different than shooting yourself up to impress other people or make yourself look better (far beyond your genetic capability) for your own "self-esteem".

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

You're too smart to argue in bizarre absolutes.

Vanity exists. It's why people buy nice clothes, wear deodorant, comb their hair, get braces, lift weights, tuck in their shirt, use napkins, etc.

There are dress codes that exist at country clubs, restaurants, schools and the workplace. Admittance to those places require that people have proper hygiene, manners and appearance.

Using a napkin is part of living in a civilized society.

It has absolutely nothing to do with vanity.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

There are dress codes that exist at country clubs, restaurants and schools. Admittance to those places require that people have proper hygiene, manners and appearance.

Using a napkin is part of living in a civilized society.

It has absolutely nothing to do with vanity.

So you only address your appearance when you're going somewhere that requires it?

Unlike hamas, you aren't too smart to argue bizarre absolutes. It's right where you're at, unfortunately.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

So you only address your appearance when you're going somewhere that requires it?

Absolutely.

I wear shorts and flip flops every day of the year. The only time I ever put on jeans these days is to go out to dinner or for drinks.

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Unlike hamas, you aren't too smart to argue bizarre absolutes. It's right where you're at, unfortunately.

Right, says the guy that compares piano lessons to HGH.



Bottom line, "Saul": You're a dumb**** that likes to argue because you can. And you know absolutely nothing about me, jackass.