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Old 06-06-2017, 08:51 PM  
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Salary Cap: Yes Or No?

One of the guys on 610 this afternoon was railing against the salary cap. He claimed it was not needed because the NFL has more cash than the MLB and NBA combined. I got the feeling it was all because of Maclin being released. He was claiming you can build even better teams without the cap.


Personally I like the cap. While cash profit is not an issue, cash in the form of what teams spend on players does effect the game. I like that the money is part of the rules. I'd like to see MLB do the same as the NFL.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:30 AM   #61
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KranzRectum has gone full reerun now. Brady is most definitely the greatest ever. Then Montana, followed by Johnny Unitas. Those are without a doubt the top 3. Then you have the opportunity to at least bring Manning and ElFraud into the discussion. Although would rate Bart Starr and Otto Graham above him. I would rank both of them somewhere between 6 and 10. And actually, I would probably agree with you that ElFraud was better than fivehead. I always laugh at people who say Manning was the greatest ever. He wasn't even the greatest to play for either team he was on. He came in second to Unitas on the Colts and 2nd to ElFraud on the Donks.
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:33 AM   #62
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The Pirates getting bounced from the wildcard round counts as "success?"

Anyway, I think the MLB might more parity because the star players don't have as much impact as they do in football. Guys like Harper are just one in nine batters. Elite pitcher play just once every four or five games. Football is just a different sport. Brady and Gronk are out there EVERY PLAY. Same reason why dynasties happen so often in the NBA. Players have a huge impact.
In football a lot of the disparity is caused by or can be measured by Elite - Mediocre - Poor QB play.

Occasional defensive flare ups aside.
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Old 06-08-2017, 01:58 PM   #63
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KranzRectum has gone full reerun now. Brady is most definitely the greatest ever. Then Montana, followed by Johnny Unitas. Those are without a doubt the top 3. Then you have the opportunity to at least bring Manning and ElFraud into the discussion. Although would rate Bart Starr and Otto Graham above him. I would rank both of them somewhere between 6 and 10. And actually, I would probably agree with you that ElFraud was better than fivehead. I always laugh at people who say Manning was the greatest ever. He wasn't even the greatest to play for either team he was on. He came in second to Unitas on the Colts and 2nd to ElFraud on the Donks.
Sure I was having some fun last night but you discount Manning almost as much as I over hype John.

Just look at the seasons the Pats and Colts had when Manning and Brady were hurt. Colts won what 2 games? Pats won 11 with Matt Cassell. Guys like Brady and Montana are system QBs, they are very good but still outside of that system not as great and he can be replaced, they didn't miss a beat last year with Grapplo. I don't think Brady makes a team better the way John did taking 3 teams to the SB who really shouldn't have been there. Colts took Luck to replace Manning yet he hasn't done anything that says he is going to be better. Belly builds the Pats so he can win with anyone on the roster.

Manning had the single best season by a QB in the history of the NFL, It is hard to rank guys in order but I would be happy if you considered John and Manning in the top 10 range. Manning is also the only QB to win a SB with 2 different teams. Farve, Warner, and Morton showed how hard that is to do.

I totally agree about Bart Starr. Dude is totally underrated, I have a bunch of his games on DVD and he was the key piece that made that team what it was even with Jim Taylor and the talent on the OL. Starr should be a top 4 or higher QB on any list.

Getting back on Topic, I don't think Lombardi could have kept that team together if he was dealing with the Cap and FA.

Over all I miss the days where you could keep a team together for 6-8 years like Pitt and Dallas used to be able to do but it does make it more fun to see new teams rise up and contend.
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