Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 46

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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**Dave Lane** · 05-07-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

Sure, there are always a handful of crybabies here or there when things got dark, but not to the extent I am seeing here. We certainly wouldn't turn on the outsiders that come in and try to help us from the ledge. I think most KC fans if forced to would admit that your organization has upgraded your coaching and QB positions (even if just marginally, in your view). So why not take an optimistic approach about something? At least take a mature approach about anything. It's one thing to be a "current loser", but at least try and present yourselves with a trace of dignity to those who offer a more positive mentality about your team's chances.

If you admit Alex Smith was a worthless pick up and a horrible quarterback and a waste of two second round draft picks you might get accepted here, that and shut the **** up.

**Dave Lane** · 05-07-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

And the problem with that is his numbers got better when the attempts started to come down. If he was getting more attempts the last 2 years and shouldering more of the offense I would view this differently, but he was only servicable when he was reigned in.

Jim Harbaugh made Alex Smith Alex Smith until then he was Alex bust.

el borracho · 05-07-2013, 01:12 PM

Do you know what is sad? That 49 fans feel the inexplicable need to visit a Chiefs message board and tell Chiefs fans how they should feel about acquiring 49er trash at a premium price.

'Niner/ Smith fans: "Alex isn't good enough to take the 49ers to the Super Bowl, but you Chiefs' fans should be happy to have him!"

jd1020 · 05-07-2013, 01:13 PM

Remember back in the day when Alex Smith had to "lead" more than a couple run heavy TD drives to win a game?

What was he? Like 3 for 30?

Not a ****ing chance that ANY QB from this last draft matches that feat of excellence!

BigCatDaddy · 05-07-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Jim Harbaugh made Alex Smith Alex Smith until then he was Alex bust.

It looks like the magic that was Jim Harbaugh was simply playing Marty-Ball with Alex. Limit his attempts, keep the passes short, run the ball and play good defense. Alex once even made a Steve Bono type bootleg for a long TD run.

KCSLC2008 · 05-07-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish

It's sad that the only possible praise for Alex Smiff has to be followed by "Over the last few years", when he's been in the NFL for 8 years.....

Last four years of playing and 2006 is the range. His rookie year was awful but I don't see that returning. 2007 he was playing on a torn throwing shoulder that kept him out until 2009. He'll be better than 2006, but I included that as a worse case scenario.

KCSLC2008 · 05-07-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Why the **** do you idiots keep on saying this? Green had a 20 TD season before coming to the Chiefs. Alex Smith has NEVER done that. Green averaged 3 touchdowns a start in STL. Alex Smith doesn't even come close.

How the **** are they similar?

He hasn't played 16 games every year. That's a concern, but having 18 TDs in 10.5 games in 2009 makes me think this 20 TD mark is a bit exaggerative. That pace is good for 27 TDs. In 2010, he had 14 in 10.5 games, again giving him more than 20 (21) over 16 games. Last year, in a little over 8 full games, he had 13 TDs. Doing what he was doing, I would expect more than 20 over a full season (24 TDs).

In 2009, he replaced the starter mid season. The previous starter played 2008, the year Smith missed due to injury and kept the job until Smith replaced him. In 2010, Singletary did a QB carousel, not an injury. Alex missed one game due to the concussion, the rest was Harbaugh sticking with Kaepernick.

Assuming Reid likes Smith and won't bench him, in a pass-happy offense, he'll get the 20 TDs. Only one significant injury that has healed four years ago.

KCSLC2008 · 05-07-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Alex Smith averaged 180 yards a game in his "good seasons"

Oh and that asshole dumbass fan guy thinks we shouldn't worry about him getting hurt. He didn't think he will get injured here. He didn't get hurt under harbaugh as much...
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200 yards per game if you don't include coming in to kneel down in victory formation or the three quarters he didn't play in the concussion game.

200 is not great, just stats on box scores can shift numbers. No big deal, your point still stands.

**SAUTO** · 05-07-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

No need for that. No need for any of this hostility. Seems silly that people can't maturely discuss differences of opinion without resorting to cowardly insults and threats. Also seems silly that people can't just find a shred of optimism towards their team. And if they can't? Then why are they not the ones to "**** off" and find some fishing or knitting forum to waste their opinions on? Can't get on board? Just GTFO then... as all of this pointless wailing is weak and pathetic.

your join date is this ****ing month.

we have had all the civil discussions about retread QB's years ago.

dont like it? GTFO

KCSLC2008 · 05-07-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's hard not to laugh at this. Even if they say that they want more than 8-8, and I'm certain that they *want* to finish better, revelations like this prove that they find 8-8 acceptable.

The difference between the Chiefs and other franchises isn't that the Chiefs don't want to win the Super Bowl. I'm sure they do. The Chiefs are different in that they accept and foster mediocrity as an adequate consolation prize.

Think about this way, if the Niners were asking for two seconds and the Chiefs were willing but wanted the third, this was a split that says the Niners will likely get what they asked, with the Chiefs willing, and some protection if Alex gets injured.

**SAUTO** · 05-07-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Seriously, why in the **** are you here? The 9ers board sick of you? You want to suck on Alex Smiths nuts? You can't hang with them? Is he your brother in law?

i think Kapernick had it right the other day...

this is an alexsmithfan mult.

Sorter · 05-07-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Arkansas game, I saw was perfect example he threw great passes then started forcing it because of Patterson and Hunter's drops on 3rd down. These babies were right on their hands too.

I'll watch it soon.

If I really get bored over this summer, maybe I'll breakdown a few games fully with coverages, fronts, routes, blocking, etc.

Spott · 05-07-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

your join date is this ****ing month.

we have had all the civil discussions about retread QB's years ago.

dont like it? GTFO

Gotta love all the 49er fans coming over here and telling us to change our attitudes or leave as if this is 49erplanet.com.

BigCatDaddy · 05-07-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i think Kapernick had it right the other day...

this is an alexsmithfan mult.

Ahh. That makes sense now.

Jakemall · 05-07-2013, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Spott

Gotta love all the 49er fans coming over here and telling us to change our attitudes or leave as if this is 49erplanet.com.

Gotta love that most of the 49er fans are more optimistic about your team than you are.

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ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $3636009	If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season. So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way. Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...#ixzz2SWCd8Gea
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