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10-25-2012, 11:11 AM | #61 |
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Aye, now there's a good point.
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10-25-2012, 11:13 AM | #63 |
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That is true. Up until the last few years you saw people wear Chiefs garb and flying flags all over the State of Kansas... now there are no Chiefs flags and very little Chiefs gear worn period. Sure seeing a lot more Denver wear.
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I posted this in another thread a while back. since thing, yet another 1st Rounder (Eli) has won 2 more.
Petro needs to look at the last 15 or so years. ============================================== since 1990, there have been 6 teams that was won a SB with a QB they did not draft: Ravens (Dilfer), Rams (Warner), Bucs (Johnson), Saints (Brees), Niners (Young), Packers (Favre). So, one 'could' argue they were Firsts. But for this comparison, we won't include them. of those, Dilfer, Young were 1st Rd picks (Brees was 32 overall; Favre 33rd overall). the other 14 Super Bowl winners that drafted a QB, only 2 were not 1st Round picks: Brady & Rypien. So, of the last 20 SB winners, only 6 were not 1st Round picks. (If you argue that Brees and Farve were basically 1sts, then only 4 were not 1st round picks)
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Can't fail much worse than what has happened the last 20 years.
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Obviously Petro is just trolling for listeners.
Even if you miss on the QB you aren't worse off than if you don't try. The Jags missed and they have one win, just like the Chiefs. Big deal. Miami, Seattle and the Vikings all gambled a bit and they have better records than KC. The upside is just so much bigger than to try the washed up vet route.
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but that goes without saying...the only reason to even say it is to be obnoxious
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this was a while a while back. I believe Sac was being sarcastic with his remark. the tone of the thread was to use 1sts on Skill players
Quote: Originally Posted by Saccopoo That's right. Good teams build around the skill positions. Outside in is the only way to do it. That's how all the top teams did it. SB teams with 1st Round lineman (as of 2010 when this post was made) Arizona - 1 OL taken in the 1st since 2000 New Orleans - 1 OL taken in the 1st since (no 1st rounders on SB winning team/offense) Indy - no OL taken since 2000 (break down since 2000 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 DE, 1 TE, 1 CB) Pitt - 2 OL taken in 1st since 1996 (Faneca '98 at #26, and Kendall Simmons in '02 at #30) Giants - no OL taken in 1st 1988 Pats - 2 OL taken in 1st since 1999 (Center '99, and Mankins in 2005 at #32 overall) Indy's use of their 1sts Indy 2009 27 Donald Brown RB Connecticut 2008 No Pick -- 2007 32 Anthony Gonzalez WR Ohio State 2006 30 Joseph Addai RB Louisiana State 2005 29 Marlin Jackson DB Michigan 2004 No Pick -- 2003 24 Dallas Clark TE Iowa 2002 11 Dwight Freeney DE Syracuse 2001 30 Reggie Wayne WR Miami (Fla.) 2000 28 Rob Morris LB Brigham Young 1999 4 Edgerrin James RB Miami (Fla.) 1998 1 Peyton Manning QB Tennessee
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Well I'm convinced lets draft another lineman instead.
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Take risks. Go for the QB. The risk is GREATER trading for some b/u than it is using that pick on a 1st round QB...
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man, if we draft a QB and he sucks, we might become a losing team.
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