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Old 03-08-2006, 09:07 PM  
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I am disappointed the Cap $ figure was raised.

Though I am happy the CBA was negotiated.

I had hoped to see the Chiefs forced to make some additional cuts and start the rebuilding process in earnest. Once I heard the following from Herm:

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Edwards indicated we may rush the ball up to 10 more times a game to utilize our offensive line and RB better, plus keep the defense on the sideline longer.

The play action pass may be used more.
I knew for sure we were returning to Martyball and keeping some of our veterans no longer made sense. We will be mediocre next seasons and probably at least one more since this is the year we cannot spend cash (nothing to do with salary cap, we won't spend our cap limit this year, just like in 2004).

So I wanted the rebuilding to start in earnest, get Shields to retire, let Hicks, Wesley, and Woods go.

So how about you are you going to be disappointed when we don't use that extra cap room the other clubs like Denver and the Raiders will take advantage of, and how about the return to Martyball, how does that sit with you?
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:27 AM   #46
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Good point.

But i think my point is still valid, it takes time for others to grasp what to do with a guy but more often than not (generally in sports, im speaking. my NFL history isn't enough to make specific claims) they bring him back to earth.

You do have a point. That does happen a lot. But there is always that special player who is meant to dominate and hopefully LJ is that guy. All the signs point to yes right now.
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:29 AM   #47
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Wait a minute, I thought what we did best was run the ball. Now we're disappointed that we're going to be trying to do a bit more of what we do best?

We're also maybe missing the point a bit about what Herm was trying to say with that comment. He's always maintained that he'd love to get a lead on a team and then run it down the stretch to win the ballgame and keep the D fresh. Now I can remember a few games here, including last year, where we had nice leads in the 2nd half and continued to try and throw the ball which led to some 3 and outs or 4 and outs and brought the D back on the field, or led to things like, for example, the Philly game changing INT with the empty backfield pass we had done earlier in the game. Instead of that, how bout establishing the run a bit more and trying to keep our D fresh? You go back to the Buffalo game, wouldn't you have rathered we stuck to the run more in that game than we did?

Frankly if we're running the ball 10 more times a game, that means we're probably winning in the game. And that's all I'm interested in. But our passing potential is not going anywhere, and if teams want to put 8 in the box against us, bring it on...

The success of the KC team will depend again on how VERSITILE an offensive line we have. The 2003 Chief's line ran successfully in ALL directions. But since then the Chief's have depended upon the left side of the offense to do the heavy lifting in the running game. THAT makes the running game predictable for defenses. What we got last year was a CHANGE of pace from the running back position with LJ taking over the job. That meant a CHANGE in how the offensive operated the running game. That change will be accounted for in defensive schemes against the Chiefs this year.

So again the success in win/loss and not just run production (we should be ok there no matter what), will depend upon having a RT that can perform as well as Tait did in 2003 and either Shields or Welbourne being able to pull to the right for stretch plays to that side of the field. If we don't have this range in the running game we will find times when good defenses JUMP our strong tendencies and we fail to sustain drives. In addition it will put extra stress physically on Roaf and Waters (though Waters is young enough to be ok) and potential strain on Weigman against big NT.
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:52 AM   #48
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when your starting QB has missed 27 out of the last 64 starts & no one has stepped up to replace him. Handing the ball off to Curtis Martin may be a good choice. But this just brings up a whole new set of questions...
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:56 AM   #49
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Why do we need to scrap the entire team and rebuild? The team won 10 games last year. Seems when you win 10 games usually you try to put the last pieces in place and not rebuild from the ground up.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:13 AM   #50
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Why do we need to scrap the entire team and rebuild? The team won 10 games last year. Seems when you win 10 games usually you try to put the last pieces in place and not rebuild from the ground up.
That's right, I'm guessing we will go 11-5 this year because our O will be better and our D will be much better. You have to take what Vlad says with a grain of salt because he isn't very intelligent. Herm just made a general statement about running the ball 10 more times per game. It doesn't mean that will actually happen. The game will dictate what happens. But let there be no doubt that our strengths are running tha ball and stopping the run.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:30 AM   #51
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That change will be accounted for in defensive schemes against the Chiefs this year.
That's easy to answer, assuming both Holmes and Johnson are healthy: a 2-back set.

Go ahead and defend the pitch to Holmes left and LJ will be in your secondary running over your DBs before you know what hit you. Go ahead and stack the middle and Holmes is going to eat you up wide.

(It's the offseason. A guy is allowed to dream a little.)
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:34 AM   #52
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I'm convinced we will pick up one, or even two, defenders; and maybe even a WR. I think we got a shot next year, to make the playoffs and, once there, who knows. The extra money will convince them to do what they need to, what they can, to try to salvage something from this offense that has been remarkable, but aged before our eyes.

After next season, I think it will be time to begin the rebuilding process. We still have too much talent to let it stagnate at 8-8, or 9-7, for a final season. Either give them the horses they need now, or cut loose the big money (which they aren't doing.)
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:36 AM   #53
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It is hard to be high on the guy when he didn't play much the first year, and then had the dropsies last seasaon, then got injured for a chunk of the season. I think with the play action pass, and the fact that he is super fast, we may be able to hit him on some deep routes for easy scores this year.

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Old 03-09-2006, 07:37 AM   #54
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Hicks, Woods, Wesley, Browning........I don't think any of them should be on this team anymore.
That's too bad, because they are all Gunther guys and they will ALL be here.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:43 AM   #55
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I really don't think it will change it as much as some believe. We will see much more 8 men in the box and defenses predicated on stopping LJ. I won't be suprised if he is held under 100 quite a few times with the new offense.
Give me a break. Teams have been trying to stop the Chiefs running game for 4 years now, and have failed miserably. We've faced 8 in the box and ran it down their throat. we've faced #1 run defenses and stuffed it down their throat.

If teams concentrate on LJ, we'll still be able to run. And if we can't, we have a veteran QB that will shred defenses through the air.

Will LJ be held under 100? Sure he will. No player in NFL history reached 100 per game for an entire season. But we've been running against teams that knew we'd run for years, and I don't expect that to suddenly stop just because of a comment made by Herm Edwards in March.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:46 AM   #56
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Old 03-09-2006, 08:26 AM   #59
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Though I am happy the CBA was negotiated.

I had hoped to see the Chiefs forced to make some additional cuts and start the rebuilding process in earnest. Once I heard the following from Herm:



I knew for sure we were returning to Martyball and keeping some of our veterans no longer made sense. We will be mediocre next seasons and probably at least one more since this is the year we cannot spend cash (nothing to do with salary cap, we won't spend our cap limit this year, just like in 2004).

So I wanted the rebuilding to start in earnest, get Shields to retire, let Hicks, Wesley, and Woods go.

So how about you are you going to be disappointed when we don't use that extra cap room the other clubs like Denver and the Raiders will take advantage of, and how about the return to Martyball, how does that sit with you?

I got a better idea... How about we utilize the talent that we have while we have it. We have a Pro Bowl quarterback, a Hall of Fame offensive line, a young running back with the possibility of being one of the best in the league, a ProBowler backing him up. The best TE in the league, a reciever who consistently puts up around 1000 yards and still has great speed, a dangerous and shifty kick returner, a young kicker with a powerful leg who is getting better each year, a ProBowl corner, and a defense that is improving each year, and will almost assuredly be better with a couple replacements for the guys we just cut...

Not to mention the fact that by the end of the year the best two teams in the AFC were the Chiefs and Chargers, and neither of them made the playoffs because of how they played earlier in the year. We have every reason to believe that we are a playoff calibre team and that we CAN win a championship... I mean, I believe that last year's team would probably have beaten the Steelers on a neutral field.
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