Which would you choose?

C-Mac · 08:57 AM

I was reflecting about Tony Gonzales and his great NFL career and feel that he is good in that he is like the "Jerome Bettis" for the Chiefs. He's an inspiration and I'm sure every player would like to see TG get his ring and I pondered about his unlikely chances of being a Chief and getting a Superbowl Ring to go along with his bust at Canton. You know its his burning desire to reach the Superbowl and likely if he ever got there he'd have over 200 yards recieving and catch 4TD's. But lets say that at the beginning of your NFL career you were given a choice, a choice of either being a Superbowl MVP or having a bust at Canton, which would you choose? Which do you think would give you the most satifaction for your career? Which would you personally desire and view as a greater achievement as a team player?

Poll to follow

Hootie · 12-18-2007, 11:07 AM

this is easy...

a bust at Canton

are you kidding?

Tony can say whatever he wants and I'm sure he wants to win...but he's made a ton of money, garnered a lot of fame, and will always be talked about with the greats for years to come...

You'd trade that for one ring, no fame, and the league minimum for a few years?

Ha!

Chiefnj2 · 12-18-2007, 11:08 AM

A bust in Canton would mean you played at a high level for a long time, thus you made big money. You could be a 3rd string clipboard holder and get a ring without stepping on the field. HOF would be a bigger achievement in most cases.

bkkcoh · 12-18-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

A bust in Canton would mean you played at a high level for a long time, thus you made big money. You could be a 3rd string clipboard holder and get a ring without stepping on the field. HOF would be a bigger achievement in most cases.

Yeah, Damon Huard is a case in point. He received a SB ring in NE....

**DaKCMan AP** · 12-18-2007, 11:10 AM

Bust in canton is immortality and recognition as one of the greatest of all time.

Damon Huard has a SB ring, that should tell you something.

C-Mac · 12-18-2007, 11:11 AM

I assume that TG gets personal satisfaction knowing that he's headed for Canton, but you know that he still burns for a SB ring.

talastan · 12-18-2007, 12:13 PM

Agreed in this case I voted for the SB ring. Tony has been secured in the HOF IMO. But being the best in the league is what this is all about. Look at the issue with DT in getting a HOF vote. If we had gone to a Super Bowl there would be no arguement about him getting in the HOF. But everyone has said, "But he never went to a Super Bowl".

C-Mac · 12-23-2007, 08:39 AM

Interesing quote from Drummond:
“I made the Pro Bowl, but I really didn’t enjoy it,” Drummond said. “All the losing takes away a lot from personal achievements. They really didn’t mean anything because all you want to do is win. That’s always your first goal, anyway".

**cdcox** · 12-23-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

Interesing quote from Drummond:
“I made the Pro Bowl, but I really didn’t enjoy it,” Drummond said. “All the losing takes away a lot from personal achievements. They really didn’t mean anything because all you want to do is win. That’s always your first goal, anyway".

I think the difference is that the HOF comes at least 5 years after you quit playing and it lasts forever. I've never heard anyone say getting elected to the HOF is no big deal.

If I could be a 3 or 4 time pro-bowler on a team that won a SB, I'd take that over the HOF. But I'd rather be a HOFer than a benchwarmer or a starter that isn't making an outstanding contribution.

Rasputin · 12-23-2007, 08:55 AM

Gotta look at the guys who are in the HOF and not won a SB. Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, just a few. Think they would trade a HOF ring for a SB ring? I think they would.

I think you can have a HOF career but if you don't win the SB then you'le have an emptyness left and I think that can be a sad feeling that can't be explained.

C-Mac · 12-23-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

I think the difference is that the HOF comes at least 5 years after you quit playing and it lasts forever. I've never heard anyone say getting elected to the HOF is no big deal.

If I could be a 3 or 4 time pro-bowler on a team that won a SB, I'd take that over the HOF. But I'd rather be a HOFer than a benchwarmer or a starter that isn't making an outstanding contribution.

I agree and maybe I should have said SB MVP or Canton.
The point of the thread was because all NFL players are very competitive and winning is everything. So it would be mentally draining and difficult to endure losing just to gain Canton.

blueballs · 12-23-2007, 10:09 AM

Nearly 1/4th of the CP voters are morons
the presidential elections are envious
2/3rds of their voters are drooling idiots

Rasputin · 12-23-2007, 10:17 AM

I'd take the Super Bowl. I think a HOF player would live with regret not to win a Super Bowl. I'd have to play in the Super Bowl and contribute to the win but I think that would be the greatest satisfaction a player could ask for.

blueballs · 12-23-2007, 10:22 AM

I'm sure Marino feels inferior to Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer
people will remember Marino
Johnson and Dilfer will be trivia answers

View Poll Results: Which would you choose?
Take the Superbowl ring...the pinnacle.	10	22.73%
Take the bust at Canton...be immortal	30	68.18%
This is Rainmans gig..what the heck are you thinking?	4	9.09%
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12-18-2007, 11:06 AM
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $2353699	Which would you choose? I was reflecting about Tony Gonzales and his great NFL career and feel that he is good in that he is like the "Jerome Bettis" for the Chiefs. He's an inspiration and I'm sure every player would like to see TG get his ring and I pondered about his unlikely chances of being a Chief and getting a Superbowl Ring to go along with his bust at Canton. You know its his burning desire to reach the Superbowl and likely if he ever got there he'd have over 200 yards recieving and catch 4TD's. But lets say that at the beginning of your NFL career you were given a choice, a choice of either being a Superbowl MVP or having a bust at Canton, which would you choose? Which do you think would give you the most satifaction for your career? Which would you personally desire and view as a greater achievement as a team player? Poll to follow Last edited by C-Mac; 12-23-2007 at 08:57 AM..
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12-18-2007, 11:07 AM	#2
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	this is easy... a bust at Canton are you kidding? Tony can say whatever he wants and I'm sure he wants to win...but he's made a ton of money, garnered a lot of fame, and will always be talked about with the greats for years to come... You'd trade that for one ring, no fame, and the league minimum for a few years? Ha!
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12-18-2007, 11:08 AM	#3
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $7873688	A bust in Canton would mean you played at a high level for a long time, thus you made big money. You could be a 3rd string clipboard holder and get a ring without stepping on the field. HOF would be a bigger achievement in most cases. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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DaKCMan AP Beloved & Awesome CP Celebrity Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Florida Casino cash: $6754952	Bust in canton is immortality and recognition as one of the greatest of all time. Damon Huard has a SB ring, that should tell you something. __________________
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12-18-2007, 11:11 AM	#6
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $2353699	I assume that TG gets personal satisfaction knowing that he's headed for Canton, but you know that he still burns for a SB ring.
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12-18-2007, 12:13 PM	#7
talastan Manning, we're coming for you! Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Springfield, Mo Casino cash: $10004950	Agreed in this case I voted for the SB ring. Tony has been secured in the HOF IMO. But being the best in the league is what this is all about. Look at the issue with DT in getting a HOF vote. If we had gone to a Super Bowl there would be no arguement about him getting in the HOF. But everyone has said, "But he never went to a Super Bowl". __________________ Can we please just draft AND DEVELOP a QB - est. since 1983 Check out my band: Truett and the Traitors
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12-23-2007, 08:39 AM	#8
C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $2353699	Interesing quote from Drummond: “I made the Pro Bowl, but I really didn’t enjoy it,” Drummond said. “All the losing takes away a lot from personal achievements. They really didn’t mean anything because all you want to do is win. That’s always your first goal, anyway".
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12-23-2007, 08:55 AM	#10
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3485421	Gotta look at the guys who are in the HOF and not won a SB. Barry Sanders, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, just a few. Think they would trade a HOF ring for a SB ring? I think they would. I think you can have a HOF career but if you don't win the SB then you'le have an emptyness left and I think that can be a sad feeling that can't be explained.
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12-23-2007, 10:09 AM	#12
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12-23-2007, 10:17 AM	#13
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3485421	I'd take the Super Bowl. I think a HOF player would live with regret not to win a Super Bowl. I'd have to play in the Super Bowl and contribute to the win but I think that would be the greatest satisfaction a player could ask for.
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12-23-2007, 10:22 AM	#14
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	I'm sure Marino feels inferior to Brad Johnson or Trent Dilfer people will remember Marino Johnson and Dilfer will be trivia answers
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