Chiefs Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. - Page 23

Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 02:52 PM

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The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good

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While Smith’s stats above took a major uptick starting in 2011, there were still some red flags. While his 70.2 completion percentage last season was impressive, it also showed his unwillingness to take chances and throw the ball downfield. His average depth of target of only 8 yards was the fourth-lowest of all quarterbacks and only 8.7 percent of Smith’s passes traveled 20+ yards downfield in 2012. Among quarterbacks who started at least half their games, only Christian Ponder had a lower percentage.

Smith also led the NFL in 2011 by taking 44 sacks, and was sacked 24 times in nine starts in 2012 before being replaced by Kaepernick. Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

**SAUTO** · 03-02-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Yeah, see, no. No. Because Colin Kaepernick averaged 290 yards passing and rushing per game.

So no.

No.

why add in rushing?
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Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 02:58 PM

Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

Smith - 33.3%
Cassel - 20.7%

Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

why add in rushing?
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If Alex Smith was averaging 50 yards rushing per game I'd give him credit for that.

Smith2Bench · 03-02-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Smith was sacked on one third of his pressures in 2012, which led the league by a wide margin.

Smith - 33.3%
Cassel - 20.7%

Yup. Bad pocket presence.

The Alexsexuals will attribute this to a poor Oline ans WRs not getting open.

They can't fathom the idea that a QB has to see and avoid pressure, even free rushers as much as they can. Obviously, you can't always win, but Smith rarely does anything if there is pressure and his #1 read is covered.

Smith2Bench · 03-02-2013, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

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The Harbaugh Years (2011-2012): The Not So Good

You just got Christian Ponder with better accuracy and a more experience.

Setsuna · 03-02-2013, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Smith2Bench

You just got Christian Ponder with better accuracy and a more experience.

ThePhoenix11 · 03-02-2013, 03:52 PM

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix.

Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 03:55 PM

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

ThePhoenix11 · 03-02-2013, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

A mobile QB who gets sacked alot is useless.

Would you rather have your QB get sacked or have him force passes and throw INTs. Look at Kaepernick's numbers, he is the same way. They're coached to take the sacks and not force INTs. Harbaugh has even made that public

Your sig is also ignorant as hell. For many reasons that I don't know where to start.

Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 03:59 PM

Colin Kaepernick was sacked once every 13 pass attempts.

Alex Smith was sacked once every 9 pass attempts.

Totally the same!

B_Ambuehl · 03-02-2013, 04:03 PM

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Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want?

Jason Campbell and Matt Moore are probably just as good and wouldn't have cost anything. Chase McDanielz is an RFA and people around here likely wouldn't have been too upset if Reid made a run at him. It's not so much Alex Smith people are against it's what they gave up to get him. If they had given up a 3rd round pick you'd probably see a lot more people on board.

Smith2Bench · 03-02-2013, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhoenix11

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix.

haha don't let this guy fool you. He just listed a bunch of attributes you would describe as if he were a rookie getting drafted. Any awards? Any rings? NFL records? Division titles? NAw, he's smart ans athletic!

He's good for 1.1 TD passes in his last several years.

Hammock Parties · 03-02-2013, 04:18 PM

Matt Moore and Alex Smith had almost identical PFF passer ratings in 2011.

He was also 4th in the league in percentage of attempts over 20 yards. Alex was 28th.

The only thing I can see that Alex Smith has over Matt Moore is knowledge of the WCO.

Thig Lyfe · 03-02-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePhoenix11

Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith.

Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated.

1) He's VERY smart
In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions.

2) This guy is efficient as heck.
He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%.

3) He's mobile.
Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video.
(I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints)
The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed.

4. He's clutch.
(the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance)
That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell.

5. He's accurate.
Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger.

6. He doesn't turn the ball over.
Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games.

7. He has improved every single year.
Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time).

He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him.

I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong.

PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix.

**** you.

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ThePhoenix11 Rookie Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Im a 49er fan, I just want to give my point of view on Alex Smith. Alex is a good quarterback, very underrated. 1) He's VERY smart In and outside of football (the guy had a 4.4 high school GPA, and got his college degree in 3 years). He's great at making changes at the line, one of the best in the league because he's so smart. He's very good at reading defenses and makes quick decisions. 2) This guy is efficient as heck. He had a 70% completion percentage before he lost his job due to an injury. That was the best in the league at that time, the highest this season was Manning and Ryan at 68%. 3) He's mobile. Very underrated athlete. Just look at this video. (I'm not allowed to post videos, see run vs NO Saints) The guy outran the whole saints defense. He's not Michael Vick or RG3 but he can run when needed. 4. He's clutch. (the whole NO Saints 4th quarter! Amazing performance) That's not it though. He had SEVEN 4th quarter comebacks/ game winning drives in 2011. The guy is clutch as hell. 5. He's accurate. Short range and mid range, he's one of the best. Deep ball is average due to his shoulder surgery. His arm was very good pre-surgery, now it's slightly above average. This doesn't mean he's a noodle arm, he can still throw it deep. Just look at Vernon Davis' highlights the last 4 years, his deep ball to Vernon was money every time, but he's obviously no gunslinger. 6. He doesn't turn the ball over. Alex always takes care of the ball. He won't lose you games from turnovers. Obviously every QB has their bad games, Alex had one vs the Giants. But outside of that game he threw 7 INTs in his last 22 games. 7. He has improved every single year. Especially these last 2 years. I thought Alex was starting to break out before he got hurt. He looked so damn good the previous 3 weeks. He was improving with Harbaugh, his last game before he was concussed he completed 18 of 19 and won offensive player of the week against a good Cardinals defense (at the time). He threw 62 TDs to 32 INTs in his last (about) 45 games. He is not a bad quarterback. Another thing is that who the heck else did you guys want? There's no better QB in free agency or the draft available this year. Geno Smith? lol.. bust written all over him. I think Alex will flourish under Reid, and will prove a lot of people wrong. PS, Alex's nickname is The Phoenix. Last edited by ThePhoenix11; 03-02-2013 at 03:58 PM..
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4700478	Matt Moore and Alex Smith had almost identical PFF passer ratings in 2011. He was also 4th in the league in percentage of attempts over 20 yards. Alex was 28th. The only thing I can see that Alex Smith has over Matt Moore is knowledge of the WCO. __________________ Chiefs game films
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