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Old 06-14-2009, 12:45 PM  
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Ray Mercer > Tim Sylvia

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48-year old Ray Mercer knocked out Tim Sylvia in 10 seconds in Birmingham, AL, thus a washed up former boxing champion in fact knocked out a two-time UFC champion in an MMA rules match. Sylvia threw a kick and Mercer countered with a right hand that knocked Sylvia out.
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:50 PM   #2
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Old 06-14-2009, 12:59 PM   #3
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Damn.

That's exactly why Dana doesn't let his guys fight boxers (like Anderson Silva vs Roy Jones). If they win, they beat a washed-up boxer. If they lose, it's an embarassment to UFC.

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Old 06-14-2009, 03:35 PM   #4
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Most decent club fighters would destroy MMA guys.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:49 PM   #5
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Most decent club fighters would destroy MMA guys.
Most MMA guys don't have sufficient technique to beat someone who actually has honed his craft.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:51 PM   #6
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Most decent club fighters would destroy MMA guys.
LOL. I think u have it backwards.
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Old 06-14-2009, 03:58 PM   #7
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LOL. I think u have it backwards.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:13 PM   #8
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In his prime, Ray Mercer hit like a bus. Sounds like he still has some power. I guess the MMA guy will probably agree after he gets out of the hospital.

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Old 06-14-2009, 04:32 PM   #9
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Most decent club fighters would destroy MMA guys.
Mercer also lost to a streetfighter with about 6 months of MMA training in Kimbo Slice.

Huge props to a 48 year old Mercer for getting out there and beating a Sylvia. I just think at his age he isn't going to have great takedown/submission defense that you need to consistently beat top guys.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:48 PM   #10
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Tim Sylvia never had a good chin. Ray Mercer always had a great right hand. I truly believe that anyfighter of relative weight can knock someone out with MMA gloves.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:52 PM   #11
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Tim Sylvia never had a good chin. Ray Mercer always had a great right hand. I truly believe that anyfighter of relative weight can knock someone out with MMA gloves.


For sure...that was Mercer's only real chance and he capitalized.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:56 PM   #12
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For sure...that was Mercer's only real chance and he capitalized.
You can't begrudge him the win but, take it with a grain of salt. The list of guys who have put Sylvia on queer street is pretty long.
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:59 PM   #13
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You can't begrudge him the win but, take it with a grain of salt. The list of guys who have put Sylvia on queer street is pretty long.

I guess I'm just looking at it differently....Mercer has no ground game, no wrestling, no kicks. He had one weapon and it worked...Sylvia POTENTIALLY could have beat him in many different ways. Props to Mercer though for sure.
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:00 PM   #14
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at least as you have decent defense to not be taken to the ground a boxer can win alot of fights in devastating fasion.

I think we will see this happen fairly soon. They will just learn to not let an opponent take them down and force the other guy to fight and uh oh, game over.

Then again, you have to be really really good to not let some of them fighters take ya down. lol
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Old 06-14-2009, 05:00 PM   #15
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at least as you have decent defense to not be taken to the ground a boxer can win alot of fights in devastating fasion.

I think we will see this happen fairly soon. They will just learn to not let an opponent take them down and force the other guy to fight and uh oh, game over.

Then again, you have to be really really good to not let some of them fighters take ya down. lol
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