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08-05-2014, 08:27 PM | #587 | |
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In comparison, Stafford has 10, Josh Freeman (lol) has 9 and Luck and Wilson both have 8 - and they are all 26 or younger. Cutler, (16) Ryan, (17) Romo (20) and Roethlisberger (23) have "a bunch". |
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08-05-2014, 08:34 PM | #588 |
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Mark Sanchez has 12. So yeah Alex isn't doing so hot in that category.
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08-05-2014, 08:38 PM | #589 |
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How many of those in the last 3 years
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Smith was drafted at 20 and barely 2 years in a shotgun wacky offense in a WAC conference.
He was not ready to be an NFL QB. He sucked hardcore. The team was utter crap. 2006 was a new coat of paint on a rusty POS team with Norv, Antonio Bryant and Larry Allen. Smith was still bad. 2007 gets injured and the team is utter crap again 2008 injured 2009-2010 a guy who was unfit to be a HC who pulled the strings to put a idiotic offense in place. You guys remember that game in early 2010? KC knew exactly what the 49ers were going to do. 2011-2012 a HC who played things very very safe. Partly for good reason. No official training camp. WR depth chart was crap and the O-Line young and terrible at pass protection. And did you miss all of 2013? The 49ers passing total was exactly the same as it was in 2011. I was told for sure it was just because Alex Smith is a game managing mediocre at best QB? |
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08-05-2014, 08:55 PM | #592 |
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Seven. Six of those in 2011.
In comparison, Romo had 4 last season alone, and has more in the last three years (13) than Alex does in his entire career. Matt Ryan has as many in the last three years (11) as Alex has in his entire career. Joe Flacco has as many in the last three years (11) as Alex has in his entire career. Sorry, you asked. |
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Excuses getting thick in here.
Where is Kaepernick when you need him? This dude was the ****ing nostradamus of the Alex Smith effect. |
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08-05-2014, 09:16 PM | #594 |
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Team wins and losses, postseason or regular season, is a terrible way to justify or denote QB play.
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I've got a good feeling about him. I'm not ready to hand him a deal with $19 a year or whatever it sounds like he's asking for, but I think we'll be seeing a more aggressive version of Smith next year. |
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08-05-2014, 09:28 PM | #596 |
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08-05-2014, 10:10 PM | #597 |
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Weeden had a 370 yard game last year.
Might of had something to do with 261 of he with help from Josh Gordon. Go back and count up the games in Alex Smith's career where outside of the QB, the HC/OC System + Targets + Pass Protection was what you could call good. Not great or the best. Just good. Like 10th best situation for a QB out of 32 teams. I'd say only time was the 8 games to start 2012. Probably right around 10th best. Still not great but at least some quality and depth at WR/TE. Blocking was also good now that the garbage was thrown out and young OL had some experience. Rush yards a game was 169. Defense was great other than @ MIN. In 4 or 5 of those games the 49ers dominated. Smith only averaged 26 passes a game when the NFL avg was 35. But it was a very efficient completing 69% of them. The best QBs can excel with mediocre stuff supporting them. Alex Smith is not that. Maybe not even very good. Maybe only 11th best. After this season plays out KC has a choice of are we good enough to mortgage the future for 1 all in run at winning as Charles is nearing 30. Or do they begin a reshuffle and keep draft picks and cap space. Depends on how a few of the big variables play this year. We'll see. |
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Here is a funny coincidence.
Shaun Hill was a 49er in 2009 started and played 5.5 games 87-155 943 yards 5 TD 2 INT Alex Smith comes in the next 4.5 games 95-155 1035 yards 9 TD 7 INT Now come 2010 Shaun Hill was on the Lions starts and finishes 9 games he has passing totals of 222 yards 227 yards 237 yards 258 yards 285 yards 289 yards 323 yards 331 yards 335 yards 300 YARD GAMES!!!!!!!!! AND AVG IS ABOUT 280 ! SHAUN HILL IS A GREAT QB |
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I think the reason for the change in the board psyche is simple attrition. This place is pretty old, in internet terms. Think about some of the people posting a decade ago that were major contributors to the quality of the discussion at that time. Some are still here. Some have left. There's even been a death or two. In any event, there's been more net loss than there has been gain. At least in my opinion. There's more trolling now. There's a lot more poster v poster argument as opposed to on-topic discussion (although there's always been some of that...). That's not to say it's all bad, or that it's a terrible place. It's not. It just seems to be harder to find good discussion. I don't think the team sucking for 15 years has helped either. When we started up in the early 00's, the team was coming off what most people (me obviously being one of the exceptions...) considered a really good decade. There were a lot of wins, whether you liked Marty or Carl or not. Now...it's just been bad. Really bad. I think it's fair to say it's a little harder to be a fan now than it was in the late 90s. Not sure we knew how spoiled we really were back then. That's got to have some impact on the board. |
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Wetend to focus on attempts downfield when we talk about being more aggressive, myself included. However, we also need to look at the kind of passes in the short game as well, and I remember coming away from those games feeling like he wasn't settling consistently for the safe pass, the checkdown. He was, at least IMO, more willing to attempt passes to receivers who were "covered", attempting to "throw them open". He still has to grow in that area, as well as the attcking the deep zones. But I just don't think he was quite as conservative over those last 6-7 games as he had been for the previous 30 or so games.
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