Football Miami's Martin leaves team after 'emotional breakdown' - Page 37

Mr. Laz · 10-30-2013, 05:07 PM

Jonathan Martin leaves Dolphins after 'breakdown'

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 30, 2013 at 06:39 p.m. Updated: Oct. 30, 2013 at 07:00 p.m.
An unusual situation is unfolding in Miami, where Dolphins right tackle Jonathan Martin has left the team after suffering an "emotional breakdown" this week.

NFL Media's Jeff Darlington reported Wednesday that Martin is currently seeking help with his family after an incident at the team's cafeteria, according to team sources.

Martin is listed on the team's injury report with an illness, and is doubtful to play Thursday against the Cincinnati Bengals. Fox NFL insider Jay Glazer reported that Martin was the victim of a prank at the cafeteria, becoming enraged enough to "smash his food tray on the ground."

The second-year pro has not been with the team since that time. Darlington reports that Martin immediately sought treatment at a local hospital. He has since left the hospital and is now spending time with his family, according to team sources.

Martin opened the season as the Dolphins' replacement for Jake Long at left tackle. He was moved to right tackle when the team acquired Bryant McKinnie via trade last week. Tyson Clabo is expected to start in Martin's place on Thursday.

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'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-04-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

It's not my first conclusion. As I said in my first post in this thread, my first theory was that Martin's outburst might have been roid rage. That was before much news of the harassment had come out. Someone else raised the question about whether or not Martin might be gay and it struck me as a possible reason why hazing from teammates might last into a guy's second season. It still seems like a viable theory so, since no one had mentioned it and no other explanations have been established, I thought I'd ask if anyone had seen any evidence that would tend to contradict that theory.

We don't know that Incognito was harassing him because of his race (we only know that race was used as an element of the harassment). We don't know why Incognito was harassing him. That's why this and anything else that might explain the "why" remains relevant.

I find your attempts to shout down any attempt to discuss Martin's potential sexuality interesting. Would you have reacted the same way if I had asked about whether or not there was any news about Martin using steroids? I doubt it. You'll have to look inward for the reasons though, because it's not about me.

That's beyond stupid. First of all, I didn't say what you put in quotes, you lazy moron. I asked if anyone else had seen anything along those lines. Second, the only negative connotation you picked up was created in your own mind. I didn't have a negative thought in my mind when I typed it, I didn't imply anything negative, and nothing about the natural meaning of those words suggests anything negative. If you picked up on the fact that I was wondering if Martin is gay, then hurray for you. If you picked up some idea that I think there's anything negative about being gay, then you need to recalibrate your own head because it's got nothing to do with me. I've got 50,000 posts on this messageboard and you wouldn't be able to find anti-gay lifestyle posts among them. I'm the most gay friendly straight male you can find. And I'm not afraid to talk about it as an acceptable human behavior like you appear to be.

Answer the question: What's the connotation present within this statement?

"At no point did I see anything about what patteeu's wife's outfit was."

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-04-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dylan

I wonder if Mike Pouncey will be the next Dolphin to be suspended.

I think Pouncey has bigger issues at hand.

Like Federal, pound-me-in-the-ass, prison.

tk13 · 11-04-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

The facepalm was meant to express incredulity, not disgust. I deleted it though because I thought your post was kind of an insignificant point. Since I've already addressed the Mike Wallace issue, I'll go back to the guys who find the discussion of homosexuality scary now.

It's certainly not any less relevant than any of the arguments I've seen over the last 50-60 posts or so. Most of this is complete verbal masturbation with absolutely no substance. We at least know Mike Wallace has not shown himself to be the most mature player and teammate in the past.

Fairplay · 11-04-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I think it does. We are free to make judgments based upon the evidence. You are also aware of the fact that this thread has grown exponentially today--once the content of Incognito's messages were released. He's had five days to respond and he's formulated no response. He has an awful reputation.

This isn't a lynch mob forming fifteen minutes after the thread was posted. To call it a lynch mob could not be more inaccurate.

12 angry men

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-04-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I'm not even on any side. I don't think we know all the facts yet... so he shouldn't be cut. I think some of the responses in this thread though are borderline disturbing though.

If the NFLPA threw a hissy fit, it would make them look like they're defending an assclown, which is why they haven't appealed the suspension.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-04-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

Incognito did 2 things:

1) Used the N word

2) Picked on a gay man(hypothetically speaking until we know for sure)

Both of which are wrong. However, IF Incognito were black do you think this would be a national story/issue ?? NOPE !! It would be just 1 black guy giving another black guy the "bro business" end of story !! But because Incognito has a dirty rep on the field already with many fines and off the field issues and he is white this is nothing short of red filet mignon for not only the nat'l sports media but even bigger for the majority Marxist Media.

This was an issue well before we even knew a racial slur was uttered. Don't make this about race baiting. What Incognito did was wrong. Period.

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Once again, why bring it up then?

It doesn't make any sense to bring it up if you're going to later on say that it doesn't matter. If it matters, bring it up, if it doesn't, then don't. You can't have it both ways.

Why does it matter if someone talks about it? Is there some reason why this particular characteristic should be kept secret?

If I asked what kind of car Martin drives to the stadium each day, would I have been met with multiple posters asking why it matters? Why bring it up? I doubt it.

The answer to your question (which you would already know if you bothered to read it the handful of other times I've posted it) is yes it matters. It matters because it's a potential motive that would help explain what was going on in that lockerroom. It would have nothing to do with justification, as far as I'm concerned, but it might help explain why it happened.

**Dylan** · 11-04-2013, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

When the entire offensive line gets suspended, it's the quarterback who suffers.

If allegations against Incognito prove true, federal authorities could step in -

This story gained national attention.

**Dylan** · 11-04-2013, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think Pouncey has bigger issues at hand.

Like Federal, pound-me-in-the-ass, prison.

Murders, gun trafficking, threatening life crime, bullying, harassment and retaliation, racial slurs and hate crimes, hazing, complaints of extortion, pressure to persuade Martin’s parents to cooperate - What is going on with NFL players?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-04-2013, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Why does it matter if someone talks about it? Is there some reason why this particular characteristic should be kept secret?

If I asked what kind of car Martin drives to the stadium each day, would I have been met with multiple posters asking why it matters? Why bring it up? I doubt it.

The answer to your question (which you would already know if you bothered to read it the handful of other times I've posted it) is yes it matters. It matters because it's a potential motive that would help explain what was going on in that lockerroom. It would have nothing to do with justification, as far as I'm concerned, but it might help explain why it happened.

"Do you guys think that Martin could have been harassed by Incognito because he's gay?"

is not the same as

"In all the articles and web searches you guys have read/done on this issue, have any of you come across any mention of a wife or girlfriend for Jonathan Martin?"

**RealSNR** · 11-04-2013, 11:16 PM

I just can't help but laugh.

The dude's name is Richie Incognito.

Richie. ****ing. Incognito.

A novelist who was looking for a character name for his fat piece of shit douchebag jock locker room bully couldn't have come up with anything better than that.

It's like the guy who won the World Series of Poker many years ago whose name was Chris Moneymaker. Or Usain Bolt being a world-class sprinter. You have Richie Incognito the douchebag.

Like, here's how good his name is. You could play his voicemail to 100 people who had not heard of this story in the news. And then you could ask them all the following multiple-choice question:

"Based on what you just heard, can you identify the name of this message's sender?
A. Joe Phillips
B. Dennis Philagree
C. Darrell Landers
D. Mike Taylor
E. Richie Incognito"

There wouldn't be a single individual in that group of 100 who wouldn't answer "That last one. Richie Incognito."

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

Now I have an understanding why you have such difficulty comprehending some of my explanations. I will try to make no logical sense in the future.

It really wasn't that hard to follow. He was making no logical sense to make a point about making no logical sense.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-04-2013, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

"Do you guys think that Martin could have been harassed by Incognito because he's gay?"

is not the same as

"In all the articles and web searches you guys have read/done on this issue, have any of you come across any mention of a wife or girlfriend for Jonathan Martin?"

People used to speculate that George Brett was gay because he wasn't attached in the 70's and early 80's.

I've never understood the public's fascination with who their sports heroes are ****ing.

patteeu · 11-04-2013, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

We at least know Mike Wallace has not shown himself to be the most mature player and teammate in the past.

We agree on that.

GoChargers · 11-04-2013, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

If I asked what kind of car Martin drives to the stadium each day, would I have been met with multiple posters asking why it matters?

Yes, because it has nothing to do with the story.

10-30-2013, 05:07 PM
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $2230208	I just can't help but laugh. The dude's name is Richie Incognito. Richie. ****ing. Incognito. A novelist who was looking for a character name for his fat piece of shit douchebag jock locker room bully couldn't have come up with anything better than that. It's like the guy who won the World Series of Poker many years ago whose name was Chris Moneymaker. Or Usain Bolt being a world-class sprinter. You have Richie Incognito the douchebag. Like, here's how good his name is. You could play his voicemail to 100 people who had not heard of this story in the news. And then you could ask them all the following multiple-choice question: "Based on what you just heard, can you identify the name of this message's sender? A. Joe Phillips B. Dennis Philagree C. Darrell Landers D. Mike Taylor E. Richie Incognito" There wouldn't be a single individual in that group of 100 who wouldn't answer "That last one. Richie Incognito."
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