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**BigRedChief** · 09:44 PM

2011 World Series Championship
2012 NLCS. One win from another WS appearance.
2013 World Series. Two wins from another World Series Championship
2014 NLCS. Three wins from another WS appearance

Made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
Only 1 losing season since 2000.
Reached the World Series 4 times since 2004 and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
Made the NLCS 9 times including the last 4 years 2011-2014
Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
65 post season wins since 2004. 22+ wins more than any other team.

O.city · 01-10-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Doesn't Hamels still have $150+ million left on his contract?

90 I think

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-10-2015, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

What kind, major, minor? He looked pretty damn fast when he actually got on base. How would the hip issue prevent him from hitting better but still allow him to run the bases fast?

You get stability and power from your lower body. If you have a hip impingement (wouldn't surprise me if it was a torn hip labrum), it's going to affect your ability to swing the bat with any authority because you have to plant , drive, and rotate your hips.

ChiefsCountry · 01-10-2015, 12:57 PM

Kroenke might write DeWitt a check to get Scherzer so all the attention goes back to the Cardinals.

Mi_chief_fan · 01-10-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Doesn't Hamels still have $150+ million left on his contract?

From what I've read, (correct me if I'm wrong hamas), Hamels has 4 years guaranteed @ $23million per, and an option for a 5th year for $24 million, which to me seems like a good bargain in today's market.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-10-2015, 02:17 PM

It's 4/90 + the fifth year, which is $24MM, and he might hit, so it's either 5/114, 5/108, or 4/96.

$144m / 6 Years (2013 - 2018) + 1 Option Years (Edit)
signed by Philadelphia Phillies (Extension)
2013: $19.5M,
2014: $22.5M,
2015: $22.5M,
2016: $22.5M,
2017: $22.5M,
2018: $22.5M
2019 Vesting Option: $19M ($6M buyout)

$19 million club option or $6 million buyout or $24 million option that vests automatically if Hamels meets each of the following criteria: a) 400 innings pitched in 2017-2018; b) 200 innings pitched in 2018; c) he is not on the DL at end of 2018 with left shoulder or elbow injury.
Signing Bonus: $6M
No Trade: Limited
Incentives: $50,000 All-Star; $100,000 World Series MVP; $50,000 League Championship Series MVP; $100,000 Cy Young ($50,000-2nd; $25,000-3rd); $50,000 Gold Glove; $50,000 Silver Slugger; $100,000 for MVP ($50,000-2nd; $25,000-3rd).
Other Notes: Player may purchase four Diamond Club seats to all home regular-season and postseason games. Player may purchase suite for five home regular-season games per year. Player may purchase suite on road. Club will promote Hamels Foundation.
Agent / Agency: John Boggs of JBA Sports
Source: zozone.mlblogs.com
Submitted by Ace Black

**BigRedChief** · 01-10-2015, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

It's 4/90 + the fifth year, which is $24MM, and he might hit, so it's either 5/114, 5/108, or 4/96.

So the most would be $114 million. In today's market that's not some numbers that cause you to flee in horror.

kcxiv · 01-10-2015, 06:08 PM

Dont pitchers and catchers report sometimes soon? i know its not that long after the new year.

NM i looked it up its Feb 19th

**BigRedChief** · 01-10-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Dont pitchers and catchers report sometimes soon? i know its not that long after the new year.

NM i looked it up its Feb 19th

Is everyone happy out in LA with the trade and helping clear out the logjam in your outfield?

kcxiv · 01-10-2015, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Is everyone happy out in LA with the trade and helping clear out the logjam in your outfield?

We still have a logjam lol we need another to get traded. WE still have 5 OF's who could play everyday on a team somewhere. lol

I think alot of Fans dont understand why Friedman made the moves he did, but people that are actually knowledgable know. FIrst off, we sucked bad with RISP. This should help. WE have players that put the ball in play and not swing for the fences all the time. Rollins is just a stop Gap until Guerrero and Seager are ready to take over. I dont know where they are going to put them dudes exactly, but Seager is SS/3rd and Guerrero is 2B/SS.

THey want to promote from withing the Minor leagues and people gotta go in order for this to happen! Cant keep the Kids in the minor forever, they have to come up..

IM still worried about the Bullpen a tad. We might get to see the 18 year old pitcher, he should be 19 after the ASB, last year he pitched 17/18 years old and his era was like 1.10 or something stupid. He's just dominating. If he continues to do that, ya gotta bring him up like they Did Kershaw, he came up right after he turned 20.

**BigRedChief** · 01-11-2015, 12:27 AM

Just saw this one

Ken Rosenthal predicts James Shield will sign with the Cardinals on MLB Network just now. That would be interesting.
— B.J. Rains (@BJRains) January 6, 2015

Marcellus · 01-11-2015, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Just saw this one

Ken Rosenthal predicts James Shield will sign with the Cardinals on MLB Network just now. That would be interesting.
— B.J. Rains (@BJRains) January 6, 2015

That should help the relationship with Royals fans around here.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-11-2015, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Just saw this one

Ken Rosenthal predicts James Shield will sign with the Cardinals on MLB Network just now. That would be interesting.
— B.J. Rains (@BJRains) January 6, 2015

Oh, no.

**BigRedChief** · 01-11-2015, 08:51 AM

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Oh, no.

Yeah, screw that. Either get a top 5 pitcher or just gamble that our current pitchers health will hold up all season. We have a one pitcher cushion that can go down. I'd rather roll with that than spend $100-$125 million on Shields.

I like the Hamels deal. He's at the peak of his game. You don't have to worry about resigning. Pull the trigger. We have 2 years. GIT-R-DONE!

We start to rebuild/reload in 2017. I've read many reports on Kaminsky and Reyes that they are top of the rotation starters. They should be in the big show by 2017.

VAChief · 01-11-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Just saw this one

Ken Rosenthal predicts James Shield will sign with the Cardinals on MLB Network just now. That would be interesting.
— B.J. Rains (@BJRains) January 6, 2015

Great, Jeff Suppan, "the Brewer years." How energizing.

No thanks.

**BigRedChief** · 01-15-2015, 07:24 PM

Lance Lynn signs for 3 years/$22 Million. Arb years buy out. I thought when a club buys out the arb years they usually get another year or two?

Bourjas and Cruz sign one year deals too.

Why can't we find a better backup than Cruz?

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01-10-2015, 02:17 PM	#65
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	It's 4/90 + the fifth year, which is $24MM, and he might hit, so it's either 5/114, 5/108, or 4/96. $144m / 6 Years (2013 - 2018) + 1 Option Years (Edit) signed by Philadelphia Phillies (Extension) 2013: $19.5M, 2014: $22.5M, 2015: $22.5M, 2016: $22.5M, 2017: $22.5M, 2018: $22.5M 2019 Vesting Option: $19M ($6M buyout) $19 million club option or $6 million buyout or $24 million option that vests automatically if Hamels meets each of the following criteria: a) 400 innings pitched in 2017-2018; b) 200 innings pitched in 2018; c) he is not on the DL at end of 2018 with left shoulder or elbow injury. Signing Bonus: $6M No Trade: Limited Incentives: $50,000 All-Star; $100,000 World Series MVP; $50,000 League Championship Series MVP; $100,000 Cy Young ($50,000-2nd; $25,000-3rd); $50,000 Gold Glove; $50,000 Silver Slugger; $100,000 for MVP ($50,000-2nd; $25,000-3rd). Other Notes: Player may purchase four Diamond Club seats to all home regular-season and postseason games. Player may purchase suite for five home regular-season games per year. Player may purchase suite on road. Club will promote Hamels Foundation. Agent / Agency: John Boggs of JBA Sports Source: zozone.mlblogs.com Submitted by Ace Black
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01-11-2015, 12:27 AM	#70
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01-15-2015, 07:24 PM	#75
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3129627 VARSITY	Lance Lynn signs for 3 years/$22 Million. Arb years buy out. I thought when a club buys out the arb years they usually get another year or two? Bourjas and Cruz sign one year deals too. Why can't we find a better backup than Cruz? __________________ Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering. -YODA
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