Chiefs Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno? - Page 23

-King- · 10-28-2013, 01:27 PM

Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB.

But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?

Marcellus · 10-29-2013, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I can't wait for playoff time. You and I are going to have so much fun together. Truly.

Playoffs? Really? I know you predicted that at the start of the season.

FTR I did.

tredadda · 10-29-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yep. This team maybe wins 1 playoff game, MAYBE and it's topped out at that point with Alice. I'd do exactly what the Steelers did with Big Ben.

Wow. Just Wow. Sacrifice everything in the hopes of something better. We have three playoff wins since SB IV and this is our best shot is quite some time to make noise and you would throw it away hoping that Bray pans out.

**HemiEd** · 10-29-2013, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

That requires time and a comfort zone only attained with repeated throws.

We don't throw deep enough for him to develop that with anyone...

Agreed, and I don't want to pretend part of this isn't to blame on the young OL that is struggling.

Just dreaming here, but can you imagine him being able to throw one of those passes like Brady does, where he intentionally under-throws the receiver that stops his route before defender can react?
I bet Alex Smith would have nightmares about that scenario.

BigCatDaddy · 10-29-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Wow. Just Wow. Sacrifice everything in the hopes of something better. We have three playoff wins since SB IV and this is our best shot is quite some time to make noise and you would throw it away hoping that Bray pans out.

What is "making noise"?

lcarus · 10-29-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

What is "making noise"?

This is making noise mother effer.

BigCatDaddy · 10-29-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

This is making noise mother effer.

Peyton has relatives that work for Guiness?

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN · 10-29-2013, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Ok, I will give you that.

But couldn't we also say that the worst defense he has faced so far as an NFL QB, is better than the best one he faced in College? That may be a stretch for some people, but I think it has to be fairly accurate.

So, given that, wouldn't that indicate a lot of growth and maturity in a short period of time, much like other franchise QBs. In fact, at a faster pace than some of the greats.

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

BigCatDaddy · 10-29-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

Sandy Vagina · 10-29-2013, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

He almost never does it.

Hell, the only one I can remember is that pass to Avery when we were on like the 2 yard line and that one he had to make an adjustment on...

There are also some that no one remembers... because Bowe's CB gets a DPI thrown on him on what look to be promising deep connections. Moves the chains, but doesn't show up on the stat sheets.. so they become forgettable.

We can assume that Alex just hates throwing deep down the field... but can we be sure? Seems Reid is utilizing him (for now and for the most part) like Harbaugh did. They KNOW the OL pass pro sucks... so they tell him "you like your first look high % pass option? Take it."

Reid is the type to demand Alex throw more deep passes, if he wanted him to. So by now, Alex would be trying more deep ones, if asked to. He isn't... so I'd think it a safe bet that Reid IS telling Smith to keep doing what he's doing... for the time being.

Molitoth · 10-29-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

o'rly?

A lot of Chiefs Homers forget how awful Alex Smith's first few seasons were.

Year 1? 1 TD, 11 INT's.

I'd say Harbaugh taught him how to read defenses.

**Mav** · 10-29-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Actually, if the 2nd round pick hadn't been traded for recyled reject #17, Geno would have been there. They still could have used the 1.1 on the SAFE PICK, Eric Fisher.

But don't let the facts get in your WAY Halfcan.

Im sure if they Chiefs front office had known that Geno would be there in round two, considering that almost everyone expert had him as the first qb taken, and not in the second round mind you, that they probably don't make that trade for Alex Smith.

Just saying. And lets not forget, the jets not only passed of super geno once, they passed on him TWICE, and didn't have to trade up to get him the third time around either.

Sandy Vagina · 10-29-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

I can't wait for playoff time. You and I are going to have so much fun together. Truly.

Those are the words of a douche hoping KC struggles and fails once in the playoffs... all so that you can feel proud that you guessed right...

**Shogun** · 10-29-2013, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

**Mav** · 10-29-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN

It's hard to compare defenses from college and pro teams but I have to say that when Geno has excelled he's had all day to throw with no pressure. His offensive line is giving him a nice passing lane and lots of time to find an open receiver. I'm not saying that he's another Cassel or Quinn, I'm just saying that I wouldn't trust him against playoff defenses. You can't teach a person how to read defenses, you either have the ability or you don't.

Wow.

Someone better go tell the people who brought in Steve Young, drafted Peyton Manning, drafted Troy Aikman that they are reerunS.

All of them had HORRIBLE starts to their careers.

matter of fact, all things considered, Troy Aikman had the worst rookie season of any qb in nfl history.

Peyton Manning certainly could read defenses on his way to throwing an NFL RECORD 28 picks his rookie season.

This is asinine.

**Rausch** · 10-29-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

There are also some that no one remembers... because Bowe's CB gets a DPI thrown on him on what look to be promising deep connections. Moves the chains, but doesn't show up on the stat sheets.. so they become forgettable.

We can assume that Alex just hates throwing deep down the field... but can we be sure? Seems Reid is utilizing him (for now and for the most part) like Harbaugh did. They KNOW the OL pass pro sucks... so they tell him "you like your first look high % pass option? Take it."

Reid is the type to demand Alex throw more deep passes, if he wanted him to. So by now, Alex would be trying more deep ones, if asked to. He isn't... so I'd think it a safe bet that Reid IS telling Smith to keep doing what he's doing... for the time being.

2 things: 1) Reid didn't know how much help our line needed until we started playing the games.
2) Reid didn't know Fish would be the dumpster fire he's become.

The idea was to turn Alex loose and let him sling the ball. He's too hesitant when he does have the time and more often than not he just doesn't have the time...

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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $2475743	Would you rather be 8-0 with Alex Smith or 3-5 with Geno? Our offense is terrible with Alex Smith. It would likely be worse with Geno given his propensity to turn the ball over and give the other teams points through pick 6s and returned fumbles for TDs. So seeing as how we barely win with the offense we have now, we'd have likely lost more than a few games if we had Geno as our QB. But would you rather take those growing pains with Geno, or be 8-0 with Alex and be in the driver seat toward a first round bye in the playoffs?
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