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Old 02-28-2009, 07:53 PM  
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Cutler is Pissed

CUTLER THINKS HE'S STILL ON THE BLOCK
Posted by Mike Florio: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:25 PM
Despite an effort by the team to explain that it wasn't and isn't trying to trade him, quarterback Jay Cutler considers himself on the block.

"My understanding at this point is they're trying to trade me," Cutler told Mike Klis of the Denver Post. "We'll see where I end up at. I liked it here, I liked playing with these guys but obviously they're not going to let me have that opportunity."

Past tense. I liked it here.

And there's more.

"I'm upset," Cutler said. "I mean I'm really shocked at this point. I could see why they want [Matt] Cassel. I don't know if they think I can't run the system or I don't have the skills for it. I just don't get it. Or if they don't think they can sign me with my next contract. I just don't know what it is. I've heard I'm still on the trading block."

Coach Josh McDaniels questions the accuracy of Cutler's sources.

"We don't want to trade Jay," McDaniels told Klis. "We never did. He's our quarterback. We're excited about this season. And excited about what we're doing here in free agency to improve our team."

But, really, what else could McDaniels say? If they can't trade Cutler, they need to move forward.

And Cutler seems to be willing to give it a try.

"Anything can be mended," he said. "I'll always play with the guys we've got. I love playing for those guys. Obviously, Josh and I's relationship has taken a few steps backward. I don't play for the coaches anyway, I play for teammates. As long as we keep the guys we've got I'll go out there and play. I love those guys."

And Cutler offered a warning regarding the potential reaction of his teammates to a trade.

"I know they love playing for me and I love playing for them," Cutler said. "There's going to be a lot of problems if they try to trade me. Well, they've already tried to trade me, but if they trade me for sure."
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:23 PM   #76
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The way I heard it was the Broncos got phone calls about it. I don't why Cutler is all butt-hurt over the Donks answering the phone. Hell, you never say no until you've heard the whole deal because you never know when a "you get an offer you can't refuse" one pops up.
If one team is looking to trade for Cassel and then trade for Cutler, yeah. But if rumors are true and 2 teams were looking at that scenario? The Broncos are shopping Cutler.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:23 PM   #77
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Michael Smith just said on sportscenter that Denver wanted to include THEIR 1st rounder.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:24 PM   #78
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Denver's coach wants Kansas City's QB.

keep saying it it sounds so good. can we get a thread that says nothing but

denver's coach wants our QB
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:26 PM   #79
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If that was the case Denver would have Cassel right now. We would never in a million years trade Cutler straight up for Cassel. We probably wanted Detroit's 2 first round picks AND Cassel.
There's exactly 2 QB's that's worth that trade. Guess what, Cutler isn't one of them.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:28 PM   #80
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Michael Smith just said on sportscenter that Denver wanted to include THEIR 1st rounder.
Please tell me you're kidding.....
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:29 PM   #81
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Please tell me you're kidding.....
Nope, that is what he said.

Cassel is obviously higher regarded than many on here think...
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:30 PM   #82
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Please tell me you're kidding.....
Michael Smith just said that. Seriously. I don't know how reliable a source he is, but that's what he just said like 10 min ago.
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Michael Smith just said that. Seriously. I don't know how reliable a source he is, but that's what he just said like 10 min ago.
i thought thats what he said, the little one was in here saying goodnight so...
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:35 PM   #84
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Michael Smith just said on sportscenter that Denver wanted to include THEIR 1st rounder.


Maybe they don't like Cutler cause he's diabetic (I'm allowed that cheap shot, I am a type 1 diabetic as well)

Really though, a low blow to Cutler. Absolutely hilarious if they really offered a first for him, and I can't wait to see Cutler blow his fuse w/ McDaniels next year the first time he gets chewed out after an INT.
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Old 02-28-2009, 10:58 PM   #85
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What a ****ing crybaby. Prove McDaniels wrong, don't cry about it.
Exactly. My name for him is "CutlerDouche"( or Gay Butler; whichever strikes your fancy ), and he keeps living right on up to it.
I tell you man, I'll take the relatively quiet, dignified leader over the utter and embarrassing horseshit that he and Rivers constantly display.

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Another way to look at it is you're saying Cutler is worth every pick in KC's draft except for the top pick. Draft chart or not, I don't like that idea at all.
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I think that's a valid rebuttal, but you can always follow the mantra of KC fans and trade down.
Look guys, you know I respect both of you immensely when it comes to the knowledge and to the takes.
And, I'm still not entirely convinced that we WON'T pull the trigger and work a deal for either Matt or Mark. It's obvious that Pioli does indeed value the position, and if that's the case; double-down.

Or hell, who the **** knows? If his first move was this damned spectacular in terms of screwing the other guy, it might very well be just one piece in a larger puzzle, and Matt Cassel may be nothing more than a Pawn in the greater game! I'm not putting ANYTHING past Pioli now, and neither should anyone else.

That said, I can't sit here and say with any intellectual honesty that we've "really screwed the pooch" in terms of opportunity, talent, or value.
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I would gladly trade Cassel and every one of our 3rd-7th round picks for Rivers.
I fixed your post, though I don't think SD would go for this :-)
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I mean, Bradford, Tebow, McCoy, Davis, Freeman, Reesing, and anyone else under THEM in the draft this year or next year?

There's a lot of potential **** up we won't have to endure to be thankful for!

Just sayin'...
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:18 PM   #88
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Reasonable people can disagree. I have no problem with that. He does have moments of dipshittery, but he's also 25 years old. It's not like Peyton Manning wasn't storming around on the sidelines pouting at the same age, or Roethlisberger wasn't road pizza, Favre wasn't picking Vicodin out of his own puke, or Elway wasn't wearing those dumbass aviators.

Hell, just looking at video on NFLN of the quarterback controversies, I was amazed at how much of a dickhead Steve Young came off as, but he was young.

And cooler heads will prevail.

I think we both see the same thing- and only are looking at it from a different point of view.

I think we'd rate out the guy in terms of tools probably very similarly.

I think where we disagree is simply on his ability to mature versus other guys you point out as examples.

The very much seems to me like some one that has a shitty attitude, and maybe the right situation with a good core of players and coaches can keep his ass in check. Not that I don't think he doesn't have the tools to be an elite player, and I think anyone would agree that he is probably still a better prospect than Cassel or anyone coming out of this or next year's draft.

If you can steal the guy for a good trade, hell yes it's worth the risk. But why is a former Pat's man seemingly so eager to move the guy? Even before 1 season of getting the chance to help correct his problems?

All this is of course just speculation, and it's not like we have 1/2 the story.

On a sidenote, and this may not really be a great comparison, but I remember when we watched Gannon get snubbed in starting the playoffs after being 1 of, if not the hottest QB's in the 2nd half of the season, before entering the off season as a FA, and signing with the Raiders.
I watched enough and knew that was a huge mistake for us during the season, and a mistake by our front office. A simple by product of a org. afraid to admit they made a mistake with who they put their big money on as their starting QB. We watched him walk for nothing and he went on to a SB appearance, and MVP. We ended up with blah play from our "franchise" QB- who ended up walking out at the 1st chance to goto Baltimore and become a giant failure in FA signings for that team.

Time will tell, but I won't complain TOO much, even though there is A LOT of value that could have been had at that 34th pick....

We shall see..
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Maybe Jay Cutler and Brian Waters could be brought together in a complex trade that involves LJ, TO, and some upstart Siberian League Team. I'm so sick of these athletes filling their tampons every time things don't go perfectly for them. Don't take it personal, just take it.
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Maybe Jay Cutler and Brian Waters could be brought together in a complex trade that involves LJ, TO, and some upstart Siberian League Team. I'm so sick of these athletes filling their tampons every time things don't go perfectly for them. Don't take it personal, just take it.
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