Rebuild the Chiefs, you can be a GM TOO!!

Logical · 11-14-2005, 08:09 PM

What the Hell, the season is a dissappointment thus far so why not.

What positions in what order do we need to rebuild a team around?

Offense first
Left Tackle (our most urgent need on offense)
Right Guard (move Welbourn in he does not belong at tackle)
Wide Receiver (Yup definitely a need)
Right Tackle (is Sampson the real deal, will he ever get healthy)
Fullback (facing fact TRich probably only has a couple of years left)
QBOTF (we do not have one realistically)

Defense
CB (we need a young one that has real talent)
DT (gag me with a spoon is any team worse at acquiring one)
Safety (we need a young one with talent)
DE (we need another full time DE with talent and motor)
CB (face facts we only have one decent one and he is in his 30s)
DT (unless Sims ever turns it around we definitely need two)

Special teams
I think we are OK but we are hurting for the future post Dante who seems to be losing it
I have less than rousing faith in Tynes but it could have been just one bad game

So what do you agree with, disagree with, and what else do you feel we need

Hammock Parties · 11-14-2005, 08:12 PM

Surtain is only 29. We do need youth at corner though.

Dante isn't losing anything.

Tynes is fine. It was wind.

Logical · 11-14-2005, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Surtain is only 29. We do need youth at corner though.

Dante isn't losing anything.

Tynes is fine. It was wind.

My error on Surtain.

I disagree on Dante, hasn't looked good this year, and his results show it.

A good kicker can handle wind, I don't have faith in Tynes yet.

Raiderhater · 11-14-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Surtain is only 29. We do need youth at corner though.

Dante isn't losing anything.

Tynes is fine. It was wind.

Yeah, the Bills missed a kick or two as well. I'm not returning so quickly to my state of being unsure about Tynes.

I also agree Dante isn't losing anything. He is being used in the passing game more than he should which is taking some out of him, and teams know about him now, so they try to limit the damage he can do. Even with all of that, he still has a KO return for a TD this year. He's fine.

**Saulbadguy** · 11-14-2005, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

My error on Surtain.

I disagree on Dante, hasn't looked good this year, and his results show it.

A good kicker can handle wind, I don't have faith in Tynes yet.

Regardless of yesterdays misses, he is still having one of the best years stat wise in the NFL. And he is young. I don't think you realize how windy it was yesterday in Buffalo.

**CosmicPal** · 11-14-2005, 08:19 PM

Damn....

We're doomed.

I might as well take up a new hobby for the next few years...shit.

Logical · 11-14-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CosmicPal

Damn....

We're doomed.

I might as well take up a new hobby for the next few years...shit.

This thread is not to say we are doomed. It is to talk about what we need to do to bring this team to a playoff winning caliber team.

Your not interested in that?

**Saulbadguy** · 11-14-2005, 08:21 PM

I think O-Line and WR are our most pressing needs.

Raiderhater · 11-14-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

I think O-Line and WR are our most pressing needs.

What? No pressing defensive need? It's been a few years since we were last in that position.

I agree, OL and WR followed by DT and CB. And a fucking QBOTF would be nice for once.....

Stinger · 11-14-2005, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I disagree on Dante, hasn't looked good this year, and his results show it.

IMO Dante needs to hit a hole and go .... this studder, then stop and go has not worked. He needs to stop thinking and just run it looks like he is trying to hard again.

Logical · 11-14-2005, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Stinger

IMO Dante needs to hit a hole and go .... this studder, then stop and go has not worked. He needs to stop thinking and just run it looks like he is trying to hard again.

Absolutely, this is what seems to happen to all the great returners as they age. I have seen it before.

**Saulbadguy** · 11-14-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by raiderhader

What? No pressing defensive need? It's been a few years since we were last in that position.

I agree, OL and WR followed by DT and CB. And a fucking QBOTF would be nice for once.....

I've actually been impressed by our defense the last 2 games. Our offense has really went to shit. A DT would be nice, but not pressing IMO. It would probably be right after OL/WR.

tommykat · 11-14-2005, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

Absolutely, this is what seems to happen to all the great returners as they age. I have seen it before.

Snickering......at your age I am sure you have...

**Tribal Warfare** · 11-14-2005, 08:30 PM

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Rebuild the Chiefs, you can be a GM TOO!!

LT- Eric Winston, Marcus McNeill, or Jonathon Scott should be in KC's spot in the draft #14-#20 in the 1st range

DT- Rod Wright or Hatoli Ngata

I'm not sure if CB Micheal Huff of Texas will last into the middle of the second round.

DE- I'm still wondering why Carlos Hall hasn't been seeing the field more, but FA looks like the best bet unless KC hits another goldmine in the later rounds.

**CosmicPal** · 11-14-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

This thread is not to say we are doomed. It is to talk about what we need to do to bring this team to a playoff winning caliber team.

Your not interested in that?

I know, I was only kidding around...

Yes, of course I'm interested, but your list depressed the hell out of me.

We've got some good talent on the practice squade- let's hope we can get someone, anyone to come off that PS and make an impact next year.

Battle may be the youngster we need on the D- just stay healthy.

I like our LBing for the future. I think our D-line was hurt bigtime by the loss of Sims.

The plain fact is we need to get some youngsters on the offensive side of the ball.

I'd go LT or RT in the first round.
WR in the second round. (Free agent pick-up would be nice as well).
QB in the third round. (We will need someone to grow into the position).
Guard or RB in the fourth round

But, obviously we are going to pick the best available in those rounds....But, we will need score big time in the first couple of rounds offensively.

I honestly think we can pick up another free agent or two to help the secondary until we can get a solid young offense again.

11-14-2005, 08:09 PM
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Rebuild the Chiefs, you can be a GM TOO!! What the Hell, the season is a dissappointment thus far so why not. What positions in what order do we need to rebuild a team around? Offense first Left Tackle (our most urgent need on offense) Right Guard (move Welbourn in he does not belong at tackle) Wide Receiver (Yup definitely a need) Right Tackle (is Sampson the real deal, will he ever get healthy) Fullback (facing fact TRich probably only has a couple of years left) QBOTF (we do not have one realistically) Defense CB (we need a young one that has real talent) DT (gag me with a spoon is any team worse at acquiring one) Safety (we need a young one with talent) DE (we need another full time DE with talent and motor) CB (face facts we only have one decent one and he is in his 30s) DT (unless Sims ever turns it around we definitely need two) Special teams I think we are OK but we are hurting for the future post Dante who seems to be losing it I have less than rousing faith in Tynes but it could have been just one bad game So what do you agree with, disagree with, and what else do you feel we need
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11-14-2005, 08:12 PM	#2
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4630478	Surtain is only 29. We do need youth at corner though. Dante isn't losing anything. Tynes is fine. It was wind. __________________ Chiefs game films
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Saulbadguy When a nightmare becomes real Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $2556966	I think O-Line and WR are our most pressing needs. __________________ http://www.goemaw.com
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