Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 461

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Sure-Oz · 07-12-2013, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We cannot catch them. There's simply no chance. This has been an under-performing Detroit team, too, and this will not last all season.

Agreed...the Royals will not get over .500 and sustain it. Saw the below on MLBTraderumors.com Hope they SELL

The Royals are likely to retain Ervin Santana, though he'd "instantly become one of the hottest names on the market" if he were shopped, Danny Knobler of CBS Sports reports. One scout tells Knobler that Santana "might be better than Garza." Kansas City has the best record in baseball over the last 36 days, but is eight games into 20 consecutive matchups with teams that have winning records. If the Royals fall far out of contention, GM Dayton Moore would probably field offers for the righty, Knobler says.

cumshotguru · 07-12-2013, 08:44 PM

The cardinals need pitching and bullpen help. Think we could take taveras off their hands for Santana and Holland? I love Holland but we need another impact bat and we have shown the ability to develop bullpen guys.

Chiefspants · 07-12-2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cumshotguru

The cardinals need pitching and bullpen help. Think we could take taveras off their hands for Santana and Holland? I love Holland but we need another impact bat and we have shown the ability to develop bullpen guys.

Please DM "Hamas Jenkins" with that query.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-12-2013, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cumshotguru

The cardinals need pitching and bullpen help. Think we could take taveras off their hands for Santana and Holland? I love Holland but we need another impact bat and we have shown the ability to develop bullpen guys.

1) The Cardinals don't need any bullpen help. They have a surplus of bullpen arms, including the most devastating lefty-righty combo in all of baseball: Kevin Siegrist and Trevor Rosenthal.

2) And Oscar Taveras is more valuable than any two players in the entire Royals organization.

3) It's too bad your dad wasn't a better guru and missed your mom's stomach, hitting her beef flaps.

Brianfo · 07-12-2013, 09:03 PM

Time to blow it up. Was fun while it lasted, but most of us fans knew we were still a year or two away. Trade Santana, a couple bullpen arms and put Billay on the block to see if someone will wow ya. Let Kottaras DH for christ sakes. Not ready to pull the plug on Moose or Escobar yet. Gordon, Hosmer, Holland, Shields, Salvy are untouchable. Everyone else is officially on the block. I've spent a ton of money on this team this year, and while it's fun to be a Royals fan again, 78-80 wins is not acceptable.

Brianfo · 07-12-2013, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1) The Cardinals don't need any bullpen help. They have a surplus of bullpen arms, including the most devastating lefty-righty combo in all of baseball: Kevin Siegrist and Trevor Rosenthal.

2) And Oscar Taveras is more valuable than any two players in the entire Royals organization.

3) It's too bad your dad wasn't a better guru and missed your mom's stomach, hitting her beef flaps.

Congrats on the dumbass post of the day.

Prison Bitch · 07-12-2013, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MeatRock

Back to 4 ****ing games under. Again. Demoralizing.

Send crow a other thank you

I'm gonna go on twitter and challenge him to a fight at the local 7-11. No worries, his punches would miss me low and inside. Asswipe.

Prison Bitch · 07-12-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

1)
2) And Oscar Taveras is more valuable than any two players in the entire Royals organization..

Will you PlEASE just s.t.f.u.?????

Prison Bitch · 07-12-2013, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Time to blow it up. Was fun while it lasted, but most of us fans knew we were still a year or two away. Trade Santana, a couple bullpen arms and put Billay on the block to see if someone will wow ya. Let Kottaras DH for christ sakes. Not ready to pull the plug on Moose or Escobar yet. Gordon, Hosmer, Holland, Shields, Salvy are untouchable. Everyone else is officially on the block. I've spent a ton of money on this team this year, and while it's fun to be a Royals fan again, 78-80 wins is not acceptable.

Yes.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-12-2013, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brianfo

Congrats on the dumbass post of the day.

Coming from you, I'm not surprised. You probably view wiping your ass as inefficient because you figure the paper and glue you eat will clean your cornhole out when it passes by.

BigCatDaddy · 07-12-2013, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Coming from you, I'm not surprised. You probably view wiping your ass as inefficient because you figure the paper and glue you eat will clean your cornhole out when it passes by.

Mmmm. I give that one 2 pooties. The cumshot one was pretty funny though.

sedated · 07-12-2013, 09:59 PM

I dont think we can trade anyone who would be a major impact on next year. Shields being on this team means we will go for it (hopefully "it" means more than just .500) again next year.

I think DM will hope that Duffy, Paulino, and maybe Ventura, or a signing can replace Santana. And we can get a 2B for next year and the young guys will step up. And hopefully Yost will be fired.

If next year doesnt happen, DM will be fired.

Brianfo · 07-12-2013, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Coming from you, I'm not surprised. You probably view wiping your ass as inefficient because you figure the paper and glue you eat will clean your cornhole out when it passes by.

That's all you got. Seriously. Bring some smack or go to bed.

tk13 · 07-12-2013, 10:11 PM

We certainly aren't the favorites but I can't believe people are just willing to give up at 43-47. Especially with a starting staff that can deliver. You don't even have to get crazy hot, you're one 17-10 type stretch from contending.

**DeezNutz** · 07-12-2013, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

We certainly aren't the favorites but I can't believe so many people are just willing to give up at 43-47. Especially with a starting staff that can deliver. You don't even have to get crazy hot, you're one 17-10 type stretch from contending.

I believe that Detroit is too talented not to get crazy hot at some point in the second half.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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cumshotguru Rookie Join Date: Apr 2013 Casino cash: $10004910	The cardinals need pitching and bullpen help. Think we could take taveras off their hands for Santana and Holland? I love Holland but we need another impact bat and we have shown the ability to develop bullpen guys.
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Brianfo Veteran Join Date: Apr 2002 Casino cash: $10004900	Time to blow it up. Was fun while it lasted, but most of us fans knew we were still a year or two away. Trade Santana, a couple bullpen arms and put Billay on the block to see if someone will wow ya. Let Kottaras DH for christ sakes. Not ready to pull the plug on Moose or Escobar yet. Gordon, Hosmer, Holland, Shields, Salvy are untouchable. Everyone else is officially on the block. I've spent a ton of money on this team this year, and while it's fun to be a Royals fan again, 78-80 wins is not acceptable.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2002500	We certainly aren't the favorites but I can't believe people are just willing to give up at 43-47. Especially with a starting staff that can deliver. You don't even have to get crazy hot, you're one 17-10 type stretch from contending.
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