Peter King: You have to go back to 1997 to find a draft like this one

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They don't get it. We'd rather take a QB and whiff than take a tackle at one, let Albert walk, and watch him lead us to no extra wins.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by PGM

They don't get it. We'd rather take a QB and whiff than take a tackle at one, let Albert walk, and watch him lead us to no extra wins.

Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.

...as it echos through an empty stadium...

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

...as it echos through an empty stadium...

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

...as it echos through an empty stadium...

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.

And what makes you think the Chiefs will win games by letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel?

Or taking another DL that doesn't penetrate gaps very well?

Or drafting a passrusher when we already have two Pro Bowlers?

We could always draft Milliner, but then we're ****ing around with reaching on draft value, which is the thing you've been talking about trying to avoid.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by SNR

And what makes you think the Chiefs will win games by letting Albert go and drafting Joeckel?

Or taking another DL that doesn't penetrate gaps very well?

Or drafting a passrusher when we already have two Pro Bowlers?

We could always draft Milliner, but then we're ****ing around with reaching on draft value, which is the thing you've been talking about trying to avoid.

I think the Chiefs will win because Andy Reid has a long history of doing it.

And in particular, he has a long history of finding lesser known QB's that he plugs into his system to significant success. So much so, that he sells them off to the highest bidder. I love that. That plays in our favor.

It also tips the scales toward taking BPA, not QB with our #1. And if that doesn't work out this year, the odds are that in a few years, it will work out.

If AR wants Alex Smith over Geno Smith, then I'd be pretty excited to have Alex Smith playing in this system under this coach.

Now if AR wants Geno Smith over all other options, then I'll be just as excited to have him playing in this system under this coach.

Putting much stock into what fans want is just silly.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Fans don't show up for draft picks. They show up for wins.

Alex Smith isn't winning shit.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Alex Smith isn't winning shit.

Shenanigans.

Alex Smith was a fumbling kick returner away from a SB in 2011. When he went down in 2012 he was leading the NFL in passer efficiency and got benched for a guy that was just a hell of a lot more dynamic than Alex. Y'know what? Kaepernick's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Geno is as well.

Give Smith a good team and he can get you to 12 wins. And yes, it's absolutely possible that he could get hot like Flacco and take a team to the SB - he should have in 2011.

I'm getting really tired of people that feel that have to slam Alex Smith to justify Geno Smith. All that does is diminish Geno. Alex Smith would be as good as Trent Green was in KC under Andy Reid, I honestly believe that. Geno has the upside to be the top 10 guy that Alex doesn't, but that doesn't mean Alex is crap.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Alex Smith isn't winning shit.

Oh yeah? He could very well be the guy to get this team back to 10-6 and perpetual first round playoff losses!

Can you just imagine what it would be like to have a QB with the talent of Geno?

Most Chiefs fans are resigned to the fact that we don't deserve it, and must keep wearing the hand me down clothes.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.

Drafting a non-QB just to avoid the risk for 30 years is also a really terrible strategy

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by jAZ

Drafting to please fans is a really terrible strategy.

It is, but in this case, its justified. There is no bigger team NEED than QB. No other player taken will help the Chiefs increase their win total.

Unforntunately, alot of organizations dont think this way. They would rather go for the "safe" choice like a linemen who will play 10 solid years rather than reach for the stars with a high risk/high reward type of player.

The Chiefs are going to tell us alot about themselves with this draft.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

It is, but in this case, its justified. There is no bigger team NEED than QB. No other player taken will help the Chiefs increase their win total.

Unforntunately, alot of organizations dont think this way. They would rather go for the "safe" choice like a linemen who will play 10 solid years rather than reach for the stars with a high risk/high reward type of player.

The Chiefs are going to tell us alot about themselves with this draft.

Short term thinking. We don't need to fix everything in 1 year. No GM/Coach entering their first draft should be feel pressure to gamble on a QB at #1 that they wouldn't ever take in that slot in a different year, simply because a handful of fans are demanding to take the top QB with the top pick.

There are more options. Some people seem to be writing off all other options for any number of somewhat irrationally looking reasons, IMO.

I have no idea if Alex Smith is going to play better for Andy Reid than Geno Smith. But if Geno's risks are graded to be higher than the draft position we have... in comparison to the draft position we are in and the alternative options we have... then you are making the wrong choice to draft him with the #1 overall pick.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jAZ

There are more options. Some people seem to be writing off all other options for any number of somewhat irrationally looking reasons, IMO.

Taking a 3-4 DE or LT, when the team has a top 10 LT already, are NOT options. Sorry. That's a complete waste of a #1 pick.

The only argument I can accept as rational for #1 other than a QB is trading down.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by SNR

Drafting a non-QB just to avoid the risk for 30 years is also a really terrible strategy

You don't make up for past failures by over-reacting today.

I have no idea if Geno Smith is the right QB or not. And neither do the 32 GM's out there today. And neither do the draft talking heads here or in the media.

If the facts of the draft say that no QB is graded in the top 15 players, and you have the option to make a trade for an NFL-experienced QB that you think is worth the pick you'll be trading, you DON'T cave to pressure from fans who are essentially disappointed that this draft class doesn't match our position of need and they long to be like the cool kids who always seem to get the big splash on draft day.

If Reid and Dorsey think that Alex Smith for a #33 or #65 is a better bet for their plans than Geno Smith for the #1, then take Alex Smith. And the Cassel experience should have zero impact on that decision. And fans desire for selecting a #1 overall QB should have none.

Nothing.