Romo/Rivers/Cutler..career losers or franchise QBs?

[Deberg_1990]

Whats your take on these guys? Would these guys be 5-0 on the Chiefs.....or do they make too many mistakes and turnovers in critical situations? Sure, they put up great "box scores" , but so did Jeff George......

[O.city]

I know he did what he did to end the game, but being up 26-3 AT&T he half, it's tough to put it all on him

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Oh, there's no doubt there should be plenty of firings and changes in Dallas. But Romo is not, nor has he ever been a problem with that organization. He's the only thing that's even keeping them mediocre.

You're crazy. Not that he should take all the blame, Jerry should take a good chunk of it, but he chokes constantly.

[dirk digler]

Oh and Garrett just threw Romo under the bus by saying he called a run and Romo changed the play which he then in turn threw the game losing INT.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by O.city

I know he did what he did to end the game, but being up 26-3 AT&T he half, it's tough to put it all on him

Oh, the D imploded (as usual), but the OC was worse in calling almost exclusive passing plays, and Romo's two clutch INTs can't be overlooked.

The DC is fighting a year of injuries, and, like the entire NFL, playing in the secondary is a crime against humanity, so he's a failure, but it's a bit more understandable. But it's not OK for the OC to pull what he did, and the HC let him get away with it.

But the biggest fail is JJ with his refusal to admit he was wrong. Unfortunately for Cowboy fans, he's the only one who's unfireable... Like what we went through with our beloved Lamar Hunt (and the jury is out on his kid [but he's looking to be an upgrade]).

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Then I'm sure he'll have a lot of teams licking their chops and giving up great draft picks to get him.

If he was ever available (and he won't be because Jerry Jones knows he's the only thing keeping that awful team afloat), plenty of teams would. Hopefully the Chiefs if they know what's good for them.

And his "don't give a shit" looks don't help in the industry he's in.

I have no idea what you're on about here. Do you want him to yell at his idiot teammates like Phillip Rivers and come off like a total jackass? Would they give him the requisite intensity in your mind? There have been plenty of great players in the history of sports that were stoic, it's not a reason to suggest they didn't care about what they were doing.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Oh and Garrett just threw Romo under the bus by saying he called a run and Romo changed the play which he then in turn threw the game losing INT.

Garrett is a dead man walking at this point, so he might as well get his shots in while he can.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

You're crazy. Not that he should take all the blame, Jerry should take a good chunk of it, but he chokes constantly.

No, I'm actually being reasonable here. Romo is a good QB on a bad team. Don't let ridiculous media narratives affect your opinions on players and organizations.

It's on a completely different level, but the Romo stuff actually kind of reminds me of how LeBron used to catch all kinds of shit in Cleveland for not winning championships (when it was almost entirely because his teammates weren't anywhere near good enough to do so).

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Garrett is a dead man walking at this point, so he might as well get his shots in while he can.

Jerry just said last week he was going to be the coach next year. Jerry needs to hire a real GM and real President and get his nose out of running the team.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Jerry just said last week he was going to be the coach next year. Jerry needs to hire a real GM and real President and get his nose out of running the team.

And you believe him? What else is he going to say about his head coach? If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs (and they probably won't, their team is bad), Garrett is gone.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If he was ever available (and he won't be because Jerry Jones knows he's the only thing keeping that awful team afloat), plenty of teams would. Hopefully the Chiefs if they know what's good for them.


I have no idea what you're on about here. Do you want him to yell at his idiot teammates like Phillip Rivers and come off like a total jackass? Would they give him the requisite intensity in your mind? There have been plenty of great players in the history of sports that were stoic, it's not a reason to suggest they didn't care about what they were doing.

Well, a little more like Brady or Manning would be nice. But the care-not thing is worse than being an emotional jackass. It's one thing to be cool and calm, it's another to appear to not care (more often than not).

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

No, I'm actually being reasonable here. Romo is a good QB on a bad team. Don't let ridiculous media narratives affect your opinions on players and organizations.

It's on a completely different level, but the Romo stuff actually kind of reminds me of how LeBron used to catch all kinds of shit in Cleveland for not winning championships (when it was almost entirely because his teammates weren't anywhere near good enough to do so).

No he is a choker and I won't ever change my opinion of him unless he wins it all which he won't.

he is 1-3 as a starter in the playoffs, and 0-3 in other games when a playoff berth was on the line.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

And you believe him? What else is he going to say about his head coach? If Dallas doesn't make the playoffs (and they probably won't, their team is bad), Garrett is gone.

It wouldn't surprise me either way.

[Chieftain58]

Rivers is better than those 2 but his anger probably ****s with his game

[Down4Chiefs]

I wouldn't want any of those players on the Chiefs to be honest over Alex. Id rather take a shot at a prospect than career losers who manage to look great and awful for stretches.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

No he is a choker

Your selective memory tells you that. Unfortunately, the facts simply don't.

and I won't ever change my opinion of him unless he wins it all which he won't.

Yeah, that's because he plays for a shit team and likely always will unless he forces a trade out of there. It doesn't mean he's not a good QB, though. Winning a championship is team based.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Well, a little more like Brady or Manning would be nice. But the care-not thing is worse than being an emotional jackass. It's one thing to be cool and calm, it's another to appear to not care (more often than not).

You're only perceiving him that way because he's not constantly yelling at people (which one could argue from some of these guys is more fake than anything). There's no reason to think he doesn't care about what he's doing.