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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-18-2012, 06:46 PM   #811
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The year the Saints won the SB, their running game was among the league's best.

But they passed the ball a ton.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:47 PM   #812
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Can't wait until Johnny Morton is our best WR and you guys are easing the pain by telling me "at least Clark didn't overspend on Bowe by 2m per year".
We don't need elite WR, we just need a Deion Branch type for The Patriot Way to flourish.
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Old 07-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #813
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Roddy White got paid.

Bowe should get paid.

They are in the same tier.

Unless you think Roddy White is as good as Fitz and Megatron.
Here is Roddy Whites contract...

Signed a six-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $18.6 million guaranteed, including a $6 million signing bonus, all of his 2009-2010 salaries, and a third-year option bonus of $5.3 million. Another $4 million is available through incentives. 2012: $5.5 million, 2013: $5.6 million, 2014: $5 million, 2015: Free Agent

Not sure what the **** you're talking about.
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Six-year, $48 million contract. The deal contains $18.6 million guaranteed.

Thats Roddy's contract. He's likely to see every penny but that's a far cry from where Bowe is seemingly fishing.
When White got paid:

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That you figured wrong.
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Again, I don't think Bowe should be paid like Fitz.

Should he be the 5th highest paid guy?

**** yes.
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Again, I don't think Bowe should be paid like Fitz.

Should he be the 5th highest paid guy?

**** yes.
Thats exactly what he is getting.

The average of the top 5 guys.
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The Chiefs should consider paying him a little bit more than that, because they NEED him more.

We overpaid for Cassel because we needed a QB.
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That you figured wrong.
How do you figure, sports fan? Are you trying to say that typically teams with poor running games dont tend to throw the ball more?
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Are you trying to say that typically teams with poor running games dont tend to throw the ball more?
How many yards would Bowe have on one of those teams, genious?

Take a guess, and we'll tell you if it's accurate.
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How do you figure, sports fan? Are you trying to say that typically teams with poor running games dont tend to throw the ball more?
I'm saying that isn't necessarily the reason.
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How many yards would Bowe have on one of those teams, genious?

Take a guess, and we'll tell you if it's accurate.
Instead of fitz or with fitz? Alne probably similar, with probably less
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I'm saying that isn't necessarily the reason.
Teams generally have a lot of pass attempts for few reasons...

1. They play from behind a lot
2. They have no running game to speak of
3. They are an offensive machine with an upper level qb

3. Being the rarest situation
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Instead of fitz or with fitz? Alne probably similar, with probably less
You do realize that Anquan Boldin was putting up 1000 yard to 1400 yard seasons playing alongside Fitz, right?
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You do realize that Anquan Boldin was putting up 1000 yard to 1400 yard seasons playing alongside Fitz, right?
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