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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11:10 PM

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

BigChiefFan · 07-17-2012, 03:17 PM

How dare we actually pay one of the best WRs in the game, like he's one of the best WRs in the game. Commitment to excrement.

**RealSNR** · 07-17-2012, 03:19 PM

Tell me about how Mike Wallace is better than Bowe again, jd

Hammock Parties · 07-17-2012, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I think Copper can pick up some slack and be the #1 WR for the first few weeks of the season.

http://tinypic.com/m/fm75aa/2 (language warning, in case mods are creepin)

Pasta Little Brioni · 07-17-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

How dare we actually pay one of the best WRs in the game, like he's one of the best WRs in the game. Commitment to excrement.

Stop using Oakland's slogan dude.

BigChiefFan · 07-17-2012, 03:23 PM

Here's your first clue on how good he is, The Chiefs are paying him top 5 receiver money on the franchise tag.

**RealSNR** · 07-17-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I think Copper can pick up some slack and be the #1 WR for the first few weeks of the season.

Uhh... yeah. Duh. I agree.

whoman69 · 07-17-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chief103182

We wonder why this team is a perpetual loser. Our sports media and fans are actually debating whether or not we should pay the best receiver we've had since Neil Armstrong walked on the ****ing Moon.

****.

Maybe since Skylab. Otis had a few good years in him after Apollo 11.

ModSocks · 07-17-2012, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Whether it sucked or not is irrelevant.

You said we were 29th in passing attempts, I believe, so wtf did we do?

Uhm, go 3 and out?

ModSocks · 07-17-2012, 03:40 PM

This is a good thread.

It confirms who the dumbasses are.

jd1020 · 07-17-2012, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Uhm, go 3 and out?

Go 3 and out... running the ball.

**HemiEd** · 07-17-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Uhm, go 3 and out?

Prior to "Mr. Average" Kyle Orton taking over, then the ball got moved. Of course there wasn't much scoring, but the 3 and outs went down. Shame on him for showing up Matt Cassel!

L.A. Chieffan · 07-17-2012, 04:23 PM

if you guys want a franchise qb, then your going to have to let other guys walk. nature of the biz.

look at new Orleans.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-17-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

This is a good thread.

It confirms who the dumbasses are.

aturnis · 07-17-2012, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

First of all, it will help your worthless stats when he was the only target for years. How many games did he win? How many wins in his 27-53 regular season record as a starter do you credit him with?

What about the fact that he averages only 7.2 TD's a season. While guys like Fitz and Megatron, guys he wanted to be paid in line with, averaged almost 3 more TD's per season with 9.8 per season. Those numbers are with 2010, in which he scored 42% of his career TD's. Nearly HALF. The other 4 years of his career, Bowe averages 5 TD's a season. Not exactly 100 million dollar contract material.

With that logic, we should definitely extend Cassel for his 27-7 performance in 2010.

Second, if he's the tenth ranked receiver, pay him like it. Don't pay him as though he's top 3.

aturnis · 07-17-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

Here's your first clue on how good he is, The Chiefs are paying him top 5 receiver money on the franchise tag.

Not b/c they wanted to. They would have much preferred to lock him up long term for less. Which would be fair market value.

07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4921115	How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this. I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league. What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years. I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's. Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe. Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49 Roddy White - 6422/42 Reggie Wayne - 6234/36 Wes Welker - 6105/31 Calvin Johnson - 5872/49 Andre Johnson - 5703/35 Greg Jennings - 5539/46 Steve Smith - 5353/29 Marques Colston - 5202/40 Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36 Personally, I think that's impressive on its own. Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons. Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems. It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game. Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play. After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play. I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game. Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league. Dude deserved elite money. Or, tl;dr - **** him. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 07-17-2012 at 11:10 PM..
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